Are elephants people?

[seer]

I'm happy to concede that moral reflection for some people starts or ends with God.

Such reasoning leads to universal moral truths, a goal that secular moral reasoning can not attain...

[Stoic]

Such reasoning leads to universal moral truths, a goal that secular moral reasoning can not attain...

Yeah, that's a good thing, if universal moral truths actually exist. Otherwise...

[seer]

Yeah, that's a good thing, if universal moral truths actually exist. Otherwise...

Well in my case not only do universal moral truths exist, so does a universal governing authority (we call that God). And not only that, it means that human beings have an objective worth and value.