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  • Originally posted by Starlight View Post
    It was a report by a politically-independent neutral 3rd party.
    It was a report from a Liberal-created commission run by a Liberal-appojnted judge who worked with and for said Liberal party for most of his career, that examined a Liberal-enacted demolishing of civil rights. Sounds super duper neutral to me.

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    • Originally posted by Starlight View Post
      Do you have any actual evidence for your denial? Or is it just you don't like reality so are denying it?
      The commission was headed by an individual part of John Turner's campaign to become prime minister and was directly appointed by Trudeau. Also, if you believe the government, especially one in bed with the WEF, would find itself in the wrong, then again, I have a bridge to sell you.

      As to Ronson naming of the Broadbent Institute:



      Broadbent Institute convenes progressives for BC launch with one of New York City’s top organizers; hosts luncheon, Democracy: beyond the ballot box with NYC civic leader

      NationBuilder Support / June 04, 2014

      WHAT: Democracy beyond the ballot box: learning from NYC’s Talking Transition tent with feature presenter Andrea Batista Schlesinger, deputy director of U.S. Programs at the Open Society Foundations. Batista Schlesinger, who served as special advisor to NYC Mayor Michael Bloomberg, will share her lessons from a pioneering model for civic engagement during the transition to the new municipal administration under Mayor Bill de Blasio.

      Emphasis added
      P1) If , then I win.

      P2)

      C) I win.

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      • Originally posted by Diogenes View Post

        The commission was headed by an individual part of John Turner's campaign to become prime minister and was directly appointed by Trudeau. Also, if you believe the government, especially one in bed with the WEF, would find itself in the wrong, then again, I have a bridge to sell you.
        As far as credibility, it's sort of a Canadian version of the J6 commission.

        As to Ronson naming of the Broadbent Institute:



        Broadbent Institute convenes progressives for BC launch with one of New York City’s top organizers; hosts luncheon, Democracy: beyond the ballot box with NYC civic leader

        NationBuilder Support / June 04, 2014

        WHAT: Democracy beyond the ballot box: learning from NYC’s Talking Transition tent with feature presenter Andrea Batista Schlesinger, deputy director of U.S. Programs at the Open Society Foundations. Batista Schlesinger, who served as special advisor to NYC Mayor Michael Bloomberg, will share her lessons from a pioneering model for civic engagement during the transition to the new municipal administration under Mayor Bill de Blasio.

        Emphasis added
        I can see why SL didn't link to the report itself. It's bigger than the convoy it's purports to study!

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        • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
          Next up, the Chinese government proclaims that covid didn't come from the Wuhan lab but was really released by American agents.
          I remember that claim from sometime in early 2020. Wouldn't be surprised if they don't revive the rumor with some "evidence".
          "For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6

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          • Source: Losing Canada


            After the Chinese Communist Party’s 1949 victory in China’s civil war, the question of “Who lost China” rocked Washington. As President Biden makes his first presidential trip to Ottawa this week, he should ask if the next country about which that question will be asked is Canada.

            The loss would not be economic. The U.S.-Mexico-Canada (USMCA) trade pact continues to underpin a vast economic relationship neither party wants to undermine, although recent Biden administration policies to promote “Buy America” are an irritant that violates the spirit of that agreement. Canada, as the smaller and more trade-dependent partner, cannot afford to lose the privileged access to U.S. markets that the USMCA ensures.

            National security is another matter entirely, however. The last decade has seen a dawning realization in Washington of the dangers posed by a resurgent China heading a group of authoritarian revisionists that includes Russia and Iran. These countries chafe under a rules-based international order that thwarts their will and imposes moral, diplomatic, economic, and military penalties on violators, such as Russia following its invasion of Ukraine. They long for a return to unrestrained Hobbesian Great Power competition.

            The United States has risen impressively, if slowly, to this challenge. It has provided extraordinary levels of support to Ukraine. It has spearheaded and embraced innovative arrangements, such as the “Quad” (India, Japan, Australia, and the United States) and AUKUS (Australia, United Kingdom, and the United States) in the Indo-Pacific, and bilateral defense cooperation agreements and NATO expansion to deter Russian aggression in Europe. Moreover, it has become the world’s largest oil producer and LNG exporter, providing a lifeline to a Europe compelled to reduce its reliance on Russian gas.

            Canada, in marked contrast, is fast becoming an honorary Third World country from a national security point of view. This is due, at least in part, to Washington’s benign neglect of Canada, thereby encouraging the belief that Canada could embrace China and indulge in diaspora politics with impunity.

            Our contribution to joint continental defense, via NORAD, is dilapidated, while Russian and Chinese advances in hypersonic weapons systems have made North America vulnerable. After Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, Canada announced it would spend CAD$4.9 billion over six years to improve our capabilities, but progress is glacial. The will to buy desperately needed new weapons systems is lacking, hence the more than a decade it took us to decide to purchase F-35 fighters. When the leaders of Japan and Germany came and begged Canada to make more of its abundant energy resources available, they were sent away empty-handed.

            Canada’s military spending is two-thirds of NATO’s target of 2% of GDP, and a fraction of the United States’ 3.48% . Canada top soldier Gen. Wayne Eyre lamented this month he doubts our capacity to lead a mooted mission to Haiti, our military being already stretched thin by its modest contribution to Ukraine and leadership of the NATO mission in Latvia.

            Compare this to the renewed commitment of Australia and the UK under AUKUS to buy new nuclear submarines, to embrace unprecedented levels of technological and command cooperation, and to increase greatly their military spending in consequence. Canada’s response to these shifts has been tepid, slow, and condescending.

            Once upon a time Canada’s absence might have been explained by the political sensitivities of being seen as too close to the U.S. and the need to manage the independence movement in Quebec. Those traditional explanations are now taking a back seat to revelations of the extent of China’s penetration of Canada’s institutions at every level, including its political parties.

            Canada’s security services have been sounding the alarm on China’s growing interference and nefarious activities for decades; indifference and hostility were official Ottawa’s response. Recently leaked intelligence assessments that Chinese Communist Party United Front operatives worked actively to influence the results of elections at every level have finally caused the public to take notice of the CCP’s clandestine activities.

            The reaction of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has been to appoint a family friend with his own China links as a “rapporteur” to investigate Chinese election interference, and to vilify both the security services and those concerned about China’s violation of Canada’s sovereignty.

            Canada’s democracy isn’t the only institution under siege. There has been no public accounting of events at Canada’s infectious diseases lab where Chinese scientists appear to have been sharing research secrets with Chinese authorities. Chinese researchers and graduate students, shut out of the U.S. for security reasons, are heading to Canadian universities, which have close and open research ties with their American counterparts. Canadians of Chinese origin have for years been vainly flagging the presence of representatives of the CCP’s security agencies, who threaten citizens and permanent residents if they do not do Beijing’s bidding.

            Canada is now so compromised that Canada’s intelligence-sharing allies, particularly in the “Five Eyes” alliance, quietly wonder if it is safe to share sensitive information with Canada.

            Job One for America is rallying the liberal democracies against the depredations of China-led authoritarians. Yet Washington faces the real possibility that its northern neighbor won’t just fail to shoulder its share of the load, but that its institutions may be so compromised as to be unable to act in the interests of the West. It is time for America to start doing its part to arrest Canada’s slow-motion defection by reversing the neglect, complacency, and dismissiveness that helped to create it. As Prime Minister Trudeau likes to say, better is always possible.

            The only question that should be on President Biden’s mind, the one on which his entire visit must focus, is this: Is Canada willing and able to cleanse its institutions of the taint of corruption, and to rejoin its traditional partners in a calm but firm commitment to the security, intelligence, and military alliance that is the liberal democracies’ last best hope? A president who doesn’t get that commitment runs the risk of being known as the guy who lost Canada.


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            © Copyright Original Source



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            • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
              Source: Losing Canada


              After the Chinese Communist Party’s 1949 victory in China’s civil war, the question of “Who lost China” rocked Washington. As President Biden makes his first presidential trip to Ottawa this week, he should ask if the next country about which that question will be asked is Canada.

              The loss would not be economic. The U.S.-Mexico-Canada (USMCA) trade pact continues to underpin a vast economic relationship neither party wants to undermine, although recent Biden administration policies to promote “Buy America” are an irritant that violates the spirit of that agreement. Canada, as the smaller and more trade-dependent partner, cannot afford to lose the privileged access to U.S. markets that the USMCA ensures.

              National security is another matter entirely, however. The last decade has seen a dawning realization in Washington of the dangers posed by a resurgent China heading a group of authoritarian revisionists that includes Russia and Iran. These countries chafe under a rules-based international order that thwarts their will and imposes moral, diplomatic, economic, and military penalties on violators, such as Russia following its invasion of Ukraine. They long for a return to unrestrained Hobbesian Great Power competition.

              The United States has risen impressively, if slowly, to this challenge. It has provided extraordinary levels of support to Ukraine. It has spearheaded and embraced innovative arrangements, such as the “Quad” (India, Japan, Australia, and the United States) and AUKUS (Australia, United Kingdom, and the United States) in the Indo-Pacific, and bilateral defense cooperation agreements and NATO expansion to deter Russian aggression in Europe. Moreover, it has become the world’s largest oil producer and LNG exporter, providing a lifeline to a Europe compelled to reduce its reliance on Russian gas.

              Canada, in marked contrast, is fast becoming an honorary Third World country from a national security point of view. This is due, at least in part, to Washington’s benign neglect of Canada, thereby encouraging the belief that Canada could embrace China and indulge in diaspora politics with impunity.

              Our contribution to joint continental defense, via NORAD, is dilapidated, while Russian and Chinese advances in hypersonic weapons systems have made North America vulnerable. After Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, Canada announced it would spend CAD$4.9 billion over six years to improve our capabilities, but progress is glacial. The will to buy desperately needed new weapons systems is lacking, hence the more than a decade it took us to decide to purchase F-35 fighters. When the leaders of Japan and Germany came and begged Canada to make more of its abundant energy resources available, they were sent away empty-handed.

              Canada’s military spending is two-thirds of NATO’s target of 2% of GDP, and a fraction of the United States’ 3.48% . Canada top soldier Gen. Wayne Eyre lamented this month he doubts our capacity to lead a mooted mission to Haiti, our military being already stretched thin by its modest contribution to Ukraine and leadership of the NATO mission in Latvia.

              Compare this to the renewed commitment of Australia and the UK under AUKUS to buy new nuclear submarines, to embrace unprecedented levels of technological and command cooperation, and to increase greatly their military spending in consequence. Canada’s response to these shifts has been tepid, slow, and condescending.

              Once upon a time Canada’s absence might have been explained by the political sensitivities of being seen as too close to the U.S. and the need to manage the independence movement in Quebec. Those traditional explanations are now taking a back seat to revelations of the extent of China’s penetration of Canada’s institutions at every level, including its political parties.

              Canada’s security services have been sounding the alarm on China’s growing interference and nefarious activities for decades; indifference and hostility were official Ottawa’s response. Recently leaked intelligence assessments that Chinese Communist Party United Front operatives worked actively to influence the results of elections at every level have finally caused the public to take notice of the CCP’s clandestine activities.

              The reaction of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has been to appoint a family friend with his own China links as a “rapporteur” to investigate Chinese election interference, and to vilify both the security services and those concerned about China’s violation of Canada’s sovereignty.

              Canada’s democracy isn’t the only institution under siege. There has been no public accounting of events at Canada’s infectious diseases lab where Chinese scientists appear to have been sharing research secrets with Chinese authorities. Chinese researchers and graduate students, shut out of the U.S. for security reasons, are heading to Canadian universities, which have close and open research ties with their American counterparts. Canadians of Chinese origin have for years been vainly flagging the presence of representatives of the CCP’s security agencies, who threaten citizens and permanent residents if they do not do Beijing’s bidding.

              Canada is now so compromised that Canada’s intelligence-sharing allies, particularly in the “Five Eyes” alliance, quietly wonder if it is safe to share sensitive information with Canada.

              Job One for America is rallying the liberal democracies against the depredations of China-led authoritarians. Yet Washington faces the real possibility that its northern neighbor won’t just fail to shoulder its share of the load, but that its institutions may be so compromised as to be unable to act in the interests of the West. It is time for America to start doing its part to arrest Canada’s slow-motion defection by reversing the neglect, complacency, and dismissiveness that helped to create it. As Prime Minister Trudeau likes to say, better is always possible.

              The only question that should be on President Biden’s mind, the one on which his entire visit must focus, is this: Is Canada willing and able to cleanse its institutions of the taint of corruption, and to rejoin its traditional partners in a calm but firm commitment to the security, intelligence, and military alliance that is the liberal democracies’ last best hope? A president who doesn’t get that commitment runs the risk of being known as the guy who lost Canada.


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              © Copyright Original Source

              I don’t think Biden is the one to try to convince "Canada" to do what must be done to get rid of corruption and stop dealing with China. He is too much under Xi's thumb himself.

              The rest of the article is spot on.


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              • https://www.rebelnews.com/pmo_texts_...ource=therebel

                PMO texts show banks were pressured to seize Freedom Convoy funds before Emergencies Act

                Text exchanges between senior staffers in the Prime Minister's Office reveal that the Trudeau Liberals were exploring how to seize funds prior to invoking the Emergencies Act.

                Texts between staff at the Prime Minister's Office (PMO) indicate there was pressure on banks to seize Freedom Convoy assets as early as Feb 7, 2022.

                The Liberals invoked the Emergencies Act (EA) one week later to allow the warrantless seizure of bank accounts and assets of people who supported the Freedom Convoy to Ottawa, a weeks-long, trucker-led peaceful protest in Ottawa against COVID-19 mandates.

                The text exchange entered into evidence at the Public Order Emergency Commission (POEC) occurred between Ben Chin and Tyler Meredith, both senior advisers in the PMO as those closest to Trudeau struggled to get a handle on the public relations disaster the convoy was causing for the Liberals and the damage to Trudeau's international reputation.

                According to the texts, the Liberals were encouraging financial institutions to go after convoy supporting or participating customers:
                But we are talking with banks and insurance companies about how they can act on their own and what helpful signals we might able to send

                Canadian banks and insurers, however, resisted acting against their customers for political reasons:
                One thing I should add- from what we hear most of the big banks are actually doing a lot of work already within the terms and conditions of existing account agreements to manage flow of funds if they suspect someone or something. That's an angle we are looking at

                The POEC was tasked with the feds' use of the EA to end the peaceful Freedom Convoy by giving police and authorities extraordinary powers normally invoked in times of war or terror attacks.

                Commissioner Paul Rouleau ruled the use of the counter-terrorism law was justified to deal with the bouncy castles and street parties in the nation's capital.



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                • I wish I understood the reason that liberals have gone so authoritative in the past few years. Is it as simple as they think they are smarter than us and our lives would be better if they controlled them?
                  "For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6

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                  • Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View Post
                    I wish I understood the reason that liberals have gone so authoritative in the past few years. Is it as simple as they think they are smarter than us and our lives would be better if they controlled them?
                    I think quite a bit of it involves the WEF and their goals of world domination. So many of the liberal leaders are a part of that organization.

                    Which, of course, falls right into God's plans for the world coming to the point of His return. So we need to lift up our heads and keep our eyes fixed upon Him, because the machinations of men will never change His word or His will, and take hope in Him.


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                    • Originally posted by mossrose View Post

                      I think quite a bit of it involves the WEF and their goals of world domination. So many of the liberal leaders are a part of that organization.

                      Which, of course, falls right into God's plans for the world coming to the point of His return. So we need to lift up our heads and keep our eyes fixed upon Him, because the machinations of men will never change His word or His will, and take hope in Him.


                      I need to study more deeply and then live out "being in the world but not of the world."
                      "For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6

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                      • Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View Post
                        I wish I understood the reason that liberals have gone so authoritative in the past few years. Is it as simple as they think they are smarter than us and our lives would be better if they controlled them?
                        IMO, "liberals" have gone so far to the left that they have joined authoritarians on the far side of the spectrum. Where hippies of the 60s were anti authority, these dweebs of today actually embrace it.

                        I saw a policy comparison once of JFK and Nixon, where the former more closely resembled today's conservatives and the latter more closely of today's liberals. It's amazing how much things have changed in a half century.

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                        • Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View Post



                          I need to study more deeply and then live out "being in the world but not of the world."
                          So very hard to do. I'm with you there!


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                          • Should change country name from Canada to Cannotdo.

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                            • I have high hopes for Pierre to take office in the next election.

                              He is very anti-globalism and is holding Trudeau's feet to the fire over so many things. Unfortunately the NDP are supporting the Libs every step of the way.


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                              • Originally posted by mossrose View Post
                                I have high hopes for Pierre to take office in the next election.

                                He is very anti-globalism and is holding Trudeau's feet to the fire over so many things. Unfortunately the NDP are supporting the Libs every step of the way.

                                As much as I'm not a fan of the American system, I'm always reminded that minority government coalitions are reason enough to avoid the Westminster system.
                                P1) If , then I win.

                                P2)

                                C) I win.

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