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  • Everything's bigger in Texas. Especially the cowards.

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    • Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
      Everything's bigger in Texas. Especially the cowards.
      It certainly causes one to question the "Texas tough guy" stereotype.
      Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
      But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
      Than a fool in the eyes of God


      From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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      • Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post

        The big question is, what are they hiding that's even worse than the complete Charlie Foxtrot that we already know occurredon multiple fronts......?
        Sounds like a lot of it is coming out, Gondy, and sounding worse with each revelation.
        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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        • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

          It certainly causes one to question the "Texas tough guy" stereotype.
          It's the sissification of America - way too much political correctness and "toxic masculinity" crap.
          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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          • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

            Sounds like a lot of it is coming out, Gondy, and sounding worse with each revelation.
            Indeed it does:

            https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2022...-to-save-wife/

            Officer husband of slain Uvalde teacher was detained, had gun taken away after trying to save wife Texas DPS director said Eva Mireles told her husband she ‘had been shot and was dying

            Shocking testimony from the Texas DPS director on Tuesday has revealed even more insight into the “abject failure” of response to the Uvalde shooting that occurred on May 24.

            Texas Department of Public Safety Director Col. Steven McCraw revealed that the husband of slain elementary teacher Eva Mireles tried to save her but was barred from doing so.

            Ruben Ruiz is a police officer for the school district and was on the scene after the gunman entered the school and opened fire.

            McCraw said Mireles called Ruiz and told him that “she had been shot and was dying.”

            “And what happened to him, is he tried to move forward into the hallway,” McCraw said. “He was detained and they took his gun away from him and escorted him off the scene.”

            McCraw didn’t say who specifically detained Ruiz.

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            • Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
              Yes, sir --- this is no longer a textbook example of what not to do --- it's a textbook case of 'what possibly could have been worse?"
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • That's horrifying. I can't imagine what he's feeling.
                Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                Than a fool in the eyes of God


                From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                  Sounds like a lot of it is coming out, Gondy, and sounding worse with each revelation.
                  And it sounds like the red flags were indeed flapping

                  Source: Texas mental health services hadn’t reached Uvalde before shooting as teacher says gunman ‘scared’ her


                  The Texas Child Mental Health Care Consortium was launched in response to the 2018 school shooting in Santa Fe to try to prevent similar tragedies from happening in future

                  Texas mental health services put in place after the 2018 school shooting in Santa Fe still hadn’t reached Uvalde prior to last month’s shooting, lawmakers learned on Wednesday – as a teacher revealed that the gunman “scared” her and started “dressing like a school shooter” in the lead up to the attack.

                  Dr David Lakey, Texas Child Mental Health Care Consortium, testified before the Texas Senate on Wednesday during a second day of public hearings about the Uvalde mass shooting.

                  He told lawmakers that the Uvalde Consolidated School District where 21 people were slaughtered last month was still not part of the Texas Child Mental Health Care Consortium more than three years on from its launch.

                  The consortium had been launched in 2019 in response to the school shooting at Santa Fe High School in Santa Fe in efforts to try to prevent similar tragedies from happening in future.

                  On 18 May 2018, 17-year-old student Dimitrios Pagourtzis entered his high school dressed in a trench coat and t-shirt reading “Born to kill” and opened fire on his fellow students and teachers.

                  [...]



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                  And y'all's top cop, Department of Public Safety Director Steven McCraw, didn't seem to have one nice thing to say about the on-scene commander. He pretty much laid it on the line calling the entire debacle an "abject failure" (didn't need an expert to tell anyone that), adding that

                  "The only thing stopping a hallway of dedicated officers from entering room 111 and 112 was the on-scene commander," McCraw said, referring to Arredondo, who McCraw said "decided to place the lives of officers before the lives of children."

                  McCraw's testimony shattered previous claims that officers who responded immediately lacked the necessary equipment and weapons to breach the doorway, instead opting to wait as more resources arrived.

                  "One hour, 14 minutes and eight seconds. That's how long the children waited and the teachers waited in rooms 111 and 112 to be rescued," McCraw said. "And while they waited, the on-scene commander waited for radios and rifles. Then he waited for shields. Then he waited for SWAT."

                  "Lastly, he waited for key that was never needed," said McCraw.


                  That had to have left a mark.


                  One more bit: Locks on 340,000 exterior school doors across Texas will be checked as part of Uvalde shooting response: Texas has more than 1,200 school districts, but the education commissioner promised plans for the review will be completed this summer.

                  I'm always still in trouble again

                  "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                  "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                  "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                  • So, the "see something say something" bit [mocked here by some] could well have prevented this thing.

                    Over and over and over ---- it's like the liberals NEED these school shootings as their excuse for gun grabbing.
                    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                    • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                      So, the "see something say something" bit [mocked here by some] could well have prevented this thing.

                      Over and over and over ---- it's like the liberals NEED these school shootings as their excuse for gun grabbing.
                      Unfortunately the system set up to report this to hadn't reached Uvalde. What held it up? Bureaucracy? Covid? Bungling? Or some combination.

                      I'm always still in trouble again

                      "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                      "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                      "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                      • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                        Unfortunately the system set up to report this to hadn't reached Uvalde. What held it up? Bureaucracy? Covid? Bungling? Or some combination.
                        Well, like in Florida, "the system" is dead set against admitting they have problem students, so did it not "reach" Uvalde, or did they simply choose to ignore it.

                        The Public Schools - run by the Democrats - are hard-wired to ignore problems and pretend they're doing a great job.

                        Somebody really needs to expose the NEA for the FRAUD that it is.
                        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                        • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                          It's the sissification of America - way too much political correctness and "toxic masculinity" crap.
                          Yeeeeeep. That's why our Navy is currently undergoing pronoun training so they can refer to people with the correct pronouns......

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                          • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                            And y'all's top cop, Department of Public Safety Director Steven McCraw, didn't seem to have one nice thing to say about the on-scene commander. He pretty much laid it on the line calling the entire debacle an "abject failure" (didn't need an expert to tell anyone that), adding that

                            "The only thing stopping a hallway of dedicated officers from entering room 111 and 112 was the on-scene commander," McCraw said, referring to Arredondo, who McCraw said "decided to place the lives of officers before the lives of children."

                            McCraw's testimony shattered previous claims that officers who responded immediately lacked the necessary equipment and weapons to breach the doorway, instead opting to wait as more resources arrived.

                            "One hour, 14 minutes and eight seconds. That's how long the children waited and the teachers waited in rooms 111 and 112 to be rescued," McCraw said. "And while they waited, the on-scene commander waited for radios and rifles. Then he waited for shields. Then he waited for SWAT."

                            "Lastly, he waited for key that was never needed," said McCraw.


                            That had to have left a mark.
                            It makes me wonder at what an office on the scene should say, "To hell with the orders, I'm going to save some lives!"
                            Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                            But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                            Than a fool in the eyes of God


                            From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                            • Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post

                              Yeeeeeep. That's why our Navy is currently undergoing pronoun training so they can refer to people with the correct pronouns......
                              Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                              Priorities are priorities. They test hyper-sonic missiles. We have lessons on preferred pronouns.

                              I'm always still in trouble again

                              "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                              "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                              "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                              • So now [ looking to make sure this is the right thread ] the Mayor of Uvalde is mad as h-e-double hocky sticks at the DPS director, claiming he's lying and leaking.... and "the gloves are off".

                                So the idiot mayor wants a peeing contest, not "just the facts, ma'am".
                                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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