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[Bill the Cat]

Did I hear the kid was wearing a dress when he was shot? Or is that interwebz rumors?

[rogue06]

Did I hear the kid was wearing a dress when he was shot? Or is that interwebz rumors?

That was one of the rumors I had referred to earlier. Specifically that the shooter was trans. AFAICT, that is all it was.

[Mountain Man]

Beto O’Rourke interrupts Texas governor's news conference on school shooting


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Beto is trying to justify his idiotic claim that he WILL grab your AR-15s and AK47s. He is SUCH a [ that word I'm not saying anymore ]!

CBS called him out describing it as a clearly staged political stunt.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com...t/#more-233489

[firstfloor]

It’s not only the guns that are the issue. It is also the fact that angry young men with mental health problems are resorting to the use of guns instead of receiving psychiatric help.

I don’t think the US is a particularly helping society. It is unwilling to work at a solution. So this sort of carnage is routine. And the next tragedy will be along shorty.

A lot of folks associate guns with freedom and a hedge against oppression. This connection must be broken.

[Cow Poke]

It’s not ... the guns that are the issue....

Fixed it for ya.

[Cow Poke]

CBS called him out describing it as a clearly staged political stunt.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com...t/#more-233489

Wow, I'm surprised!

[Cow Poke]

That was one of the rumors I had referred to earlier. Specifically that the shooter was trans. AFAICT, that is all it was.

He was acting out in all kinds of ways to get attention - including face cuttings. There were SO MANY clues that he was trouble, and he was well known to the local police.

[KingsGambit]

The rumor that he was trans appears to be spreading thanks to a tweet by Rep. Paul Gosar. However, the picture Gosar shared is clearly not the same person as the shooter.

[Mountain Man]

It’s not only the guns that are the issue. It is also the fact that angry young men with mental health problems are resorting to the use of guns instead of receiving psychiatric help.

I don’t think the US is a particularly helping society. It is unwilling to work at a solution. So this sort of carnage is routine. And the next tragedy will be along shorty.

A lot of folks associate guns with freedom and a hedge against oppression. This connection must be broken.

If it's not guns, it'll be knives, or bombs, or cars, or arson, or deadly chemicals, or any one of the other countless ways of causing mass harm. Guns are only a target because totalitarian governments fear armed citizens, and the left would so love to establish a totalitarian government in the United States, but they can't as long as the citizens can fight back.

[Mountain Man]

Democrats say, First, let us confiscate all the guns; then we can discuss other solutions.

Senator Chris Murphy: "Spare me the [expletive] about mental illness. We don't have any more mental illness than any other country in the world."

Democrats don’t want to talk about mental health. They want to establish universal background checks, the foundation for a gun registry, which will then be used to confiscate people’s property. Then, they can talk about mental health. Once we shred the Bill of Rights, then we can talk about mental health. They don’t want to work on any policies that actually tackle the problem because there’s no benefit to them. There’s no expansion of government power. There’s no chipping away at the Constitution. Yet, they sure can fill the campaign war chests by slamming pro-civil rights members of Congress and going on anti-gun tirades.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattve...-away-n2607777

[NorrinRadd]

We can thank the libtards for some of the problems regarding mental health. Back in the day, wackos were routinely locked up. Admittedly, they were sometimes treated horribly. Gerry Rivers came along and did his big expose' and now the wackos all run free and crap on the streets.

I live in a small town in western PA. Pop. now barely above 7000 but about 11,000 when I was a kid. No one thought twice about "guns." Virtually every family I knew had some. They were just no big deal. Here, approximately, was the total of my firearms instruction from my dad:

"We keep a handgun here in the top drawer of the filing cabinet. Here it is. Here's the safety. Here's how you load and unload it. It's not a toy. Leave it alone unless you need it."

No, that drawer was not locked. There were a few other guns elsewhere in the house, none locked up. It never remotely occurred to me to mess with any of them -- and I was often a disobedient little turd.

If people saw a gun in a car or carried in a holster, they wouldn't bat an eye. Guns were no more scary than a toolbox.

Gun ownership has not exploded, and according to Rand Corporation, has actually decreased since then. The change is that people are turning more and more • Edited by a Moderator • and crazies are not locked up.

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[Hypatia_Alexandria]

It’s not only the guns that are the issue. It is also the fact that angry young men with mental health problems are resorting to the use of guns instead of receiving psychiatric help.

I don’t think the US is a particularly helping society. It is unwilling to work at a solution. So this sort of carnage is routine. And the next tragedy will be along shorty.

A lot of folks associate guns with freedom and a hedge against oppression. This connection must be broken.

I suspect you will not change the mind-set of many here.

The entrenched conviction concerning the right to bear arms [and its constitutional basis] along the widely available access to firearms in the USA makes atrocities like this and the recent event in Buffalo inevitable in that country.

I understand that the term "mass shooting" can be interpreted in different ways and I realise the population of the USA is very large but I can think of no other western nation that has so many of these incidents so regularly.

The adverse impact on children's mental health after another shooting at a school must also be considered with [no doubt] many wondering if, when they attend school, they will survive to get home that evening.

[CivilDiscourse]

I suspect you will not change the mind-set of many here.

The entrenched conviction concerning the right to bear arms [and its constitutional basis] along the widely available access to firearms in the USA makes atrocities like this and the recent event in Buffalo inevitable in that country.

I understand that the term "mass shooting" can be interpreted in different ways and I realise the population of the USA is very large but I can think of no other western nation that has so many of these incidents so regularly.

The adverse impact on children's mental health after another shooting at a school must also be considered with [no doubt] many wondering if, when they attend school, they will survive to get home that evening.

One problem is that people who favor gun rights, don't trust the gun control lobby, and with good reason. They often disingenuously capitalize on these tragic events to push for changes that have nothing to do with the events they are exploiting. https://webcache.googleusercontent.c...&ct=clnk&gl=us

It's like a 44 year old man who goes drinking, and after 15 beers (5.5% ABV), gets in a horrific traffic accident, killing 23 motorists. Then a group of people come about and they say "We need to stop something like this happening again! We propose raising the drinking age to 25, and limit alcohol content to 15% and under." Neither of their alcohol ideas address the tragedy they are exploiting, and they treat anyone who disagrees with that as if they don't care about the tragedy. Then the next time a beer drinking drunk driver kills someone, they complain that nobody supported the last set of rules that they tried to implement after the last tragedy.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

One problem is that people who favor gun rights, don't trust the gun control lobby, and with good reason. They often disingenuously capitalize on these tragic events to push for changes that have nothing to do with the events they are exploiting. https://webcache.googleusercontent.c...&ct=clnk&gl=us

It's like a 44 year old man who goes drinking, and after 15 beers (5.5% ABV), gets in a horrific traffic accident, killing 23 motorists. Then a group of people come about and they say "We need to stop something like this happening again! We propose raising the drinking age to 25, and limit alcohol content to 15% and under." Neither of their alcohol ideas address the tragedy they are exploiting, and they treat anyone who disagrees with that as if they don't care about the tragedy. Then the next time a beer drinking drunk driver kills someone, they complain that nobody supported the last set of rules that they tried to implement after the last tragedy.

I certainly agree that more individuals are killed annually on US roads than are killed annually in these mass shootings.

However perhaps there should be some federal oversight concerning gun laws [including psychological back ground checks] as well as the nation's drink-driving laws.

I can understand that some people wish to own a rifle or shot-gun but from what I read the variety of fire-arms available to the average US citizen [depending on where they live] goes beyond that.

[CivilDiscourse]

I certainly agree that more individuals are killed annually on US roads than are killed annually in these mass shootings.

However perhaps there should be some federal oversight concerning gun laws [including psychological back ground checks] as well as the nation's drink-driving laws.

I can understand that some people wish to own a rifle or shot-gun but from what I read the variety of fire-arms available to the average US citizen [depending on where they live] goes beyond that.

That's nice. None of that actually addresses any point made in what I said.