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  • Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post

    Just the main entrance. Very true, when someone screws up and leaves another door open, all that security is useless. Side doors either are one-way from the inside, or are to be locked at all times. Sounds like security got lazy.
    And they're blaming COVID --- they claim they simply did not return to safety protocols, but there's suspicion that they didn't even employ safety protocols prior to COVID because they had an attitude of "it can never happen here".
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

      Profound ignorance on display. There's actually a term "schoolhouse lock" or "schoolhouse doorknob" which is designed to ALWAYS be openable from the inside, but can be set to automatically lock from the outside.

      Seriously, stop typing stupid stuff.
      At my old hospital office, there was an exit door into the parking lot where I parked that had no door handle whatsoever on the outside. When it closed, it was completely inset in the doorway, and always locked when closed. Even if it wasn't locked, one would be hard pressed to open it using a screwdriver in the crack.

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      • Originally posted by Ronson View Post

        At my old hospital office, there was an exit door into the parking lot where I parked that had no door handle whatsoever on the outside. When it closed, it was completely inset in the doorway, and always locked when closed. Even if it wasn't locked, one would be hard pressed to open it using a screwdriver in the crack.
        Yeah, the fact is that there were a number of very reasonable safety protocols here that were totally ignored.

        They would NOT have made the students "prisoners", just safe.

        There are SO MANY points of failure here where common sense was just totally absent.
        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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        • Originally posted by Ronson View Post
          Assuming Democrats ever tore up the Constitution (which they would like to do) and completely banned all firearms in this country, they would come across the southern border with all the illegals immigrants that they never check. Human traffickers, drug lords, US organized crime, would simply bring them in where Democrats dare not ever look. And then all the US citizens who would legally own a firearm would be at the mercy of armed criminals. I hope this isn't where we are heading.
          The left seem to view the constitution as nothing short of an impediment for many years now. That's why they pushed the "living document" concept so that it can mean whatever you want at any given moment. Now they seem to just want to scrap it being at war with both the First and Second Amendments.

          Funny how they focus on the things that are there to lay out the rights of the people.

          I'm always still in trouble again

          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
          "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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          • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

            Actually, the schoolhouse doorknobs in use in MOST public schools in America (and we have them installed in our Church) have two settings.

            A) you can enter and leave without a key.
            2) you can ALWAYS leave without a key, but cannot enter without one.

            Unfortunately, many teachers will disable the "schoolhouse lock" feature because it's inconvenient for them to leave the room and return, realizing they left their key in their desk.

            Our schoohouse locks require a MASTER key to disable the "always locked from the outside" feature.
            When they built an addition onto my High Skewl that had an exit that was in a blind spot that students would use to slip out of the building.

            The school responded by padlocking the exits in that wing.

            The fire department was NOT amused. To this day nobody knows who called them

            I'm always still in trouble again

            "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
            "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
            "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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            • one-way emergency exit.jpg

              Again, if the door is inset more than the frame, even just slightly, you can't even pry it open from the outside.

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              • Originally posted by Ronson View Post
                one-way emergency exit.jpg

                Again, if the door is inset more than the frame, even just slightly, you can't even pry it open from the outside.
                Excellent example of "you can ALWAYS get out - but getting in is going to be quite a challenge".
                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                  Excellent example of "you can ALWAYS get out - but getting in is going to be quite a challenge".
                  So if all the doors are like that... how do they get back into school to open it for the next day?



                  I'm always still in trouble again

                  "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                  "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                  "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                  • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                    The left seem to view the constitution as nothing short of an impediment for many years now. That's why they pushed the "living document" concept so that it can mean whatever you want at any given moment. Now they seem to just want to scrap it being at war with both the First and Second Amendments.
                    Now in my state after Sandy Hook, you have to get a background check and take a firearms training course before purchasing a gun. I'm not sure that wouldn't be a good idea nationwide.

                    Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                    • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                      So if all the doors are like that... how do they get back into school to open it for the next day?

                      Somebody has to LIVE IN!
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • Originally posted by Ronson View Post
                        one-way emergency exit.jpg

                        Again, if the door is inset more than the frame, even just slightly, you can't even pry it open from the outside.
                        image_62375.jpg
                        This panic hardware would make that door an excellent "exit only" door ---
                        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                        • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                          Actually, this kid DID have a juvenile record, including - reportedly - claiming FOUR YEARS ago that he would execute a school shooting in 2022.
                          He was also known for driving around shooting people with a BB gun. I cannot imagine that if this was widely known that he wasn't ever arrested.

                          I'm always still in trouble again

                          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                          "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                          • Originally posted by seer View Post

                            Now in my state after Sandy Hook, you have to get a background check and take a firearms training course before purchasing a gun. I'm not sure that wouldn't be a good idea nationwide.
                            I'm all for firearms training courses.

                            Nearly every time you see a reporter handle one on TV you can see the need.

                            I'm always still in trouble again

                            "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                            "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                            "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                            • Originally posted by Ronson View Post
                              one-way emergency exit.jpg

                              Again, if the door is inset more than the frame, even just slightly, you can't even pry it open from the outside.
                              You could cut off the hinges or remove the pins. Bad design.

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                              • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                                He was also known for driving around shooting people with a BB gun. I cannot imagine that if this was widely known that he wasn't ever arrested.
                                There are SO MANY "red flags" with this character, it's astounding. Add to that the apparently incredibly LAX attitude of the school regarding safety, I wouldn't be surprised if there was a flurry of wrongful death lawsuits.
                                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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