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  • Originally posted by Starlight View Post
    Apparently within 24 hours of the shooting, Fox News hosts and guests had floated over 50 solutions. Mysteriously, none of them are gun control in any form. Funny how that happened.

    50Reasons.jpg

    Link to video clip of the Fox hosts and guests proposing these things.
    Looking at the list and watching the link I was amused to see the suggestion that the children themselves should trained in the use of firearms.

    It seems Sacha Baron Cohen's spoof Kinder Guardians: How to protect your pre-school was actually taken seriously by some. Who is up for buying their pre-schooler a Uzicorn or a Gunny Rabbit?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkXeMoBPSDk

    Van Cleave made the proverbial of himself on that video.

    However, he was hardly alone in doing so in that series!
    Last edited by Hypatia_Alexandria; 05-27-2022, 06:00 AM.
    "It ain't necessarily so
    The things that you're liable
    To read in the Bible
    It ain't necessarily so
    ."

    Sportin' Life
    Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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    • Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post


      I suspect schools in the USA operate in a remarkably similar way to schools across the world.

      However, keeping children effectively in lock-down for the duration of their school day is not giving them an overly reassuring outlook on the general state of the society into which they are growing up.

      For someone who has claimed he works a great deal with those suffering from mental health issues you seem somewhat dismissive of issues surrounding the causes of anxiety and stress in children.
      You keep prisoners in lockdown -- confined to their cells unable to leave,

      In the schools the locked doors prevent people from entering, not leaving.



      I'm always still in trouble again

      "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
      "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
      "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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      • Originally posted by Starlight View Post
        Apparently within 24 hours of the shooting, Fox News hosts and guests had floated over 50 solutions. Mysteriously, none of them are gun control in any form. Funny how that happened.

        50Reasons.jpg

        Link to video clip of the Fox hosts and guests proposing these things.
        Over on the other news channels there was only one conceivable answer. A one-size fits all cookie-cutter one.

        I'm always still in trouble again

        "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
        "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
        "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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        • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
          You keep prisoners in lockdown -- confined to their cells unable to leave,

          In the schools the locked doors prevent people from entering, not leaving.

          A locked door works both ways. I also consider that the psychological effect of being locked in for their own safety from the wider America, cannot but help instil fear and anxiety in children about that wider society.

          It would appear that what causes this fear among some Americans is a fear of themselves and their society.
          "It ain't necessarily so
          The things that you're liable
          To read in the Bible
          It ain't necessarily so
          ."

          Sportin' Life
          Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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          • Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

            A locked door works both ways. I also consider that the psychological effect of being locked in for their own safety from the wider America, cannot but help instil fear and anxiety in children about that wider society.

            It would appear that what causes this fear among some Americans is a fear of themselves and their society.
            If you lock your front door of your house, you cannot get out unless the door is unlocked?

            It's the same thing in the schools.

            The locked door prevents someone from entering, not from leaving.

            And there isn't some flashing light or other sign indicating that the door is locked from the outside so I'm having a hard time seeing how this could be traumatizing.



            I'm always still in trouble again

            "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
            "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
            "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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            • I'm always still in trouble again

              "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
              "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
              "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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              • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                If you lock your front door of your house, you cannot get out unless the door is unlocked?

                It's the same thing in the schools.

                The locked door prevents someone from entering, not from leaving.

                And there isn't some flashing light or other sign indicating that the door is locked from the outside so I'm having a hard time seeing how this could be traumatizing.

                It is not just locked doors in US schools though is it? Cow Poke noted that this particular school:
                never got back to "active shooter drills" or training --- and didn't even implement their security plan.


                and that:

                the fence was a joke - 4 foot high, easily overcome -- door unlocked - easy access


                He also wrote:

                DPS now says there was NOT an armed Resource Officer in the school as previously reported.


                If that school did not have those security measures in place, it suggests that most schools do, and Cow Poke seems to hold that this school was remiss in not being better prepared.

                So what is all that telling us about US society? What is the overall impact on the psychology of [often] very young children experiencing all that on a daily basis?

                And what is this usual/normal level of security that is carried out in US schools across the nation suggesting to them about their wider society? It must lead to some [perhaps many] children experiencing anxiety and stress.

                "It ain't necessarily so
                The things that you're liable
                To read in the Bible
                It ain't necessarily so
                ."

                Sportin' Life
                Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                  Are these on every door because it seems like a fire hazard. And when a side door is left unlocked it really doesn't matter.
                  Just the main entrance. Very true, when someone screws up and leaves another door open, all that security is useless. Side doors either are one-way from the inside, or are to be locked at all times. Sounds like security got lazy.

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                  • Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                    Apparently within 24 hours of the shooting, Fox News hosts and guests had floated over 50 solutions. Mysteriously, none of them are gun control in any form. Funny how that happened.

                    50Reasons.jpg

                    Link to video clip of the Fox hosts and guests proposing these things.
                    The liberals started screaming "gun control" before the bodies were even cold. Perhaps you were cheering Beto's jackassery on?
                    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                    • Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
                      I suspect schools in the USA operate in a remarkably similar way to schools across the world.
                      Your profound ignorance of the fact that American schools are run by TEACHER UNIONS is duly noted.

                      However, keeping children effectively in lock-down for the duration of their school day is not giving them an overly reassuring outlook on the general state of the society into which they are growing up.
                      Lockdown --- you mean the COVID lockdown? They're using that to excuse the fact that they ignored even the most BASIC protocols -- like keeping a door locked during class.

                      For someone who has claimed he works a great deal with those suffering from mental health issues
                      There ya go again --- a birdbrained dipstick from across the pond spewing forth nuttery.

                      you seem somewhat dismissive of issues surrounding the causes of anxiety and stress in children.
                      Says the bimbo who laughs at men waving their penis at small children.



                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • Originally posted by Machinist View Post
                        "NICS scans federal databases like the National Crime Information Center and Interstate Identification Index for information. If a purchaser has been convicted of a felony, or misdemeanors with sentences exceeding two years, or has been declared "mentally defective" by a court, then he or she won't pass the background check."


                        I would venture to say that most lone gunman who commit such evil acts aren't going to have a record of any kind. They've just kept to themselves their whole lives. Any stricter gun laws aren't going to bar these people from buying guns. On the surface, they have always appeared mentally stable. Also, getting someone declared mentally defective by a court is not an easy task. How many of these mass shooters had felonies or were pronounced mental by a court or a psychiatrist before they carried out their evil?
                        Actually, this kid DID have a juvenile record, including - reportedly - claiming FOUR YEARS ago that he would execute a school shooting in 2022.
                        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                        • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                          Are these on every door because it seems like a fire hazard. And when a side door is left unlocked it really doesn't matter.
                          In most cases, all doors are equipped by law with panic hardware - you can always get out, but they're locked from the outside.
                          In many cases, those doors that are equipped with panic hardware will also sound an alarm when somebody exits.
                          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                          • Assuming Democrats ever tore up the Constitution (which they would like to do) and completely banned all firearms in this country, they would come across the southern border with all the illegals immigrants that they never check. Human traffickers, drug lords, US organized crime, would simply bring them in where Democrats dare not ever look. And then all the US citizens who would legally own a firearm would be at the mercy of armed criminals. I hope this isn't where we are heading.

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                            • Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
                              A locked door works both ways.
                              Profound ignorance on display. There's actually a term "schoolhouse lock" or "schoolhouse doorknob" which is designed to ALWAYS be openable from the inside, but can be set to automatically lock from the outside.

                              Seriously, stop typing stupid stuff.
                              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                              • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                                If you lock your front door of your house, you cannot get out unless the door is unlocked?

                                It's the same thing in the schools.

                                The locked door prevents someone from entering, not from leaving.

                                And there isn't some flashing light or other sign indicating that the door is locked from the outside so I'm having a hard time seeing how this could be traumatizing.

                                Actually, the schoolhouse doorknobs in use in MOST public schools in America (and we have them installed in our Church) have two settings.

                                A) you can enter and leave without a key.
                                2) you can ALWAYS leave without a key, but cannot enter without one.

                                Unfortunately, many teachers will disable the "schoolhouse lock" feature because it's inconvenient for them to leave the room and return, realizing they left their key in their desk.

                                Our schoohouse locks require a MASTER key to disable the "always locked from the outside" feature.
                                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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