Woke Science...

[Stoic]

But trans men are not men. They are women. Men can not bear children...

You clearly understand that trans men can have female sex organs, and can thus bear children.

So it's just a matter of semantics.

[Gondwanaland]

You clearly understand that trans men can have female sex organs, and can thus bear children.

So it's just a matter of semantics.

"trans men" are not men. by any measure. They are women.

[Starlight]

What percentage of any given population fall into those other categories? You don't redefine the normal by the abnormal. Some children are born without arms and legs, we don't then redefine humans as beings which are arm less or leg less.

I've seen this sort of nonsense pseudo-philosophy about definitions several times in this forum now. I've never seen it anywhere else, including my philosophy degree. Where are you guys getting this garbage way of defining things from?

[Alien]

Do you use a point system depending on various things?

Nah, children are children. I just destroy them as I see them. All leftists hate children, but we don't differentiate based on age, race, gender, sexual preference or religion.

[Stoic]

"trans men" are not men. by any measure. They are women.

"Some individuals who transition from one gender to another prefer to be referred to as a man or a woman rather than as transgender."

It costs me nothing to accommodate them, except perhaps receiving a little derision from people whose opinions on the subject I don't care about.

[Gondwanaland]

"Some individuals who transition from one gender to another prefer to be referred to as a man or a woman rather than as transgender."

It costs me nothing to accommodate them, except perhaps receiving a little derision from people whose opinions on the subject I don't care about.

That they 'prefer to be referred' to something does not magically make them that thing. The truth is what it costs to accommodate them. Basic observable reality. Might as well just accept the idiot flat-earthers too at that point.

[Stoic]

Might as well just accept the idiot flat-earthers too at that point.

Probably better than arguing with them.

[seer]

You clearly understand that trans men can have female sex organs, and can thus bear children.

So it's just a matter of semantics.

It they have female organs and can bear children they are WOMEN. And no pretending can change that...

[seer]

I've seen this sort of nonsense pseudo-philosophy about definitions several times in this forum now. I've never seen it anywhere else, including my philosophy degree. Where are you guys getting this garbage way of defining things from?

What pseudo-philosophy? That a biological man can not become a woman? That he has no possibility of bearing children? And we don't redefine the normal by the abnormal - that is pseudo-philosophy...

[seer]

It costs me nothing to accommodate them, except perhaps receiving a little derision from people whose opinions on the subject I don't care about.

And it cost me nothing to reject their delusions, except perhaps receiving a little derision from people whose opinions on the subject I don't care about.

[Starlight]

What pseudo-philosophy? ...we don't redefine the normal by the abnormal

The statements you keep making about defining normal are the pseudo-philospohy I'm taking about. Eg the one just quoted.

Why do you make up such bizarre statements about definitions? Or are you getting your nonsence statements from somewhere else?

[seer]

The statements you keep making about defining normal are the pseudo-philospohy I'm taking about. Eg the one just quoted.

Why do you make up such bizarre statements about definitions? Or are you getting your nonsence statements from somewhere else?

They are not bizarre, they are basic. Can you even define "woman" Star? Please what is your definition?

[rogue06]

"Some individuals who transition from one gender to another prefer to be referred to as a man or a woman rather than as transgender."

It costs me nothing to accommodate them, except perhaps receiving a little derision from people whose opinions on the subject I don't care about.

Regardless, men do not get pregnant. Men do not give birth.

You can put lipstick on a pig but it's still a pig.

Continue to enable people if you wish but please don't act like that makes you morally superior.

[Starlight]

They are not bizarre, they are basic.

Do I take that to mean you made them up? Is this "seer makes up random rules about how definitions 'work'"?

[seer]

Do I take that to mean you made them up? Is this "seer makes up random rules about how definitions 'work'"?

I will ask again Star - can you define "woman." That will answer your question.