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  • #31
    Originally posted by seer View Post

    Well they are left, and in this case what they said is slander. And your long history trope trying to tie me to racism is also slander.
    I never accused you of anything. but as they say, if the hat fits....
    "It ain't necessarily so
    The things that you're liable
    To read in the Bible
    It ain't necessarily so
    ."

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

      Leftie Jews eh? That has a long history.
      Well you'd certainly be the one to know given the long history of your country.....
      "So when you actually get the virus, you're going to start producing antibodies against multiple pieces of the virus. So, your antibodies are probably better at that point than the vaccination."
      - Pfizer Scientist Chris Croce

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

        Take it up with the ADL.
        No, we'll take it up with you because you uncritically decided it was worth posting and didn't bother to do basic research to see that the source you chose deliberately cherrypicked only examples criticizing one side and didn't include examples that would make their precious left look the same.
        "So when you actually get the virus, you're going to start producing antibodies against multiple pieces of the virus. So, your antibodies are probably better at that point than the vaccination."
        - Pfizer Scientist Chris Croce

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post

          Well you'd certainly be the one to know given the long history of your country.....
          Twelve years of insanity hardly constitutes a "long history". Discrimination and racism in the USA towards African Americans and the indigenous peoples of that country [as well as Jews] has a much longer history.

          Good afternoon [my time] to you by the way.
          "It ain't necessarily so
          The things that you're liable
          To read in the Bible
          It ain't necessarily so
          ."

          Sportin' Life
          Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post

            No, we'll take it up with you because you uncritically decided it was worth posting and didn't bother to do basic research to see that the source you chose deliberately cherrypicked only examples criticizing one side and didn't include examples that would make their precious left look the same.
            I repeat, if you have any concerns take them up with the ADL I daresay you could phone or email their offices.
            "It ain't necessarily so
            The things that you're liable
            To read in the Bible
            It ain't necessarily so
            ."

            Sportin' Life
            Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

              Twelve years of insanity hardly constitutes a "long history". Discrimination and racism in the USA towards African Americans and the indigenous peoples of that country [as well as Jews] has a much longer history.

              Good afternoon [my time] to you by the way.
              Lawl, your virulent anti-semitism goes back to the time of Luther in your country, my dear.
              "So when you actually get the virus, you're going to start producing antibodies against multiple pieces of the virus. So, your antibodies are probably better at that point than the vaccination."
              - Pfizer Scientist Chris Croce

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

                I never accused you of anything. but as they say, if the hat fits....
                Then why make that comment?
                Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                • #38
                  The fact that Tucker has become such a target of vitriol by both the left and the Swampublicans/Establicans shows me he's "over the target" more than just about anyone else.

                  As a side-note, I repudiate his "Eye-Patch McCain" jibe toward Crenshaw, even though in the moment I admittedly did guffaw. And the "Eye-Patch" part is all I repudiate.
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post

                    Lawl, your virulent anti-semitism goes back to the time of Luther in your country, my dear.
                    Luther did not start out as anti Judaic. He certainly became so later in life.

                    And do not forget that the German states were not the only regions of the world to be anti-Judaic. Consider the pogroms of Czarist Russia or the struggles Jews in England had to achieve emancipation. Nor should we overlook anti-Semitism in the good old US of A.
                    "It ain't necessarily so
                    The things that you're liable
                    To read in the Bible
                    It ain't necessarily so
                    ."

                    Sportin' Life
                    Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by seer View Post

                      Then why make that comment?
                      Because you referred to the ADL as leftwing [is it]?

                      And the association of Jews, socialism and "Bolshevism" goes back to Marx and Lenin and has, accordingly, been used by the extreme Right against the Jewish people.
                      "It ain't necessarily so
                      The things that you're liable
                      To read in the Bible
                      It ain't necessarily so
                      ."

                      Sportin' Life
                      Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

                        Because you referred to the ADL as leftwing [is it]?

                        And the association of Jews, socialism and "Bolshevism" goes back to Marx and Lenin and has, accordingly, been used by the extreme Right against the Jewish people.
                        Well a lot of Jews were socialists, many of these socialists immigrated to Israel and founded the Kibbutz system. And yes, the ADL is left wing, lying about Tucker was another conformation of that.

                        https://spectator.org/adl-jonathan-greenblatt-left/
                        Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

                          Luther did not start out as anti Judaic.
                          Anti-semitic.

                          He certainly became so later in life.
                          And?


                          And do not forget that the German states were not the only regions of the world to be anti-Judaic.
                          I didn't say they were (indeed, if we want to nitpick, I never used the word you've tried to use)

                          Consider the pogroms of Czarist Russia or the struggles Jews in England had to achieve emancipation. Nor should we overlook anti-Semitism in the good old US of A.
                          Certainly, but none of those as long as Germany's history of anti-semitic behavior. I understand, it's hard for you to accept the history of your country.
                          "So when you actually get the virus, you're going to start producing antibodies against multiple pieces of the virus. So, your antibodies are probably better at that point than the vaccination."
                          - Pfizer Scientist Chris Croce

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by seer View Post

                            Well a lot of Jews were socialists, many of these socialists immigrated to Israel and founded the Kibbutz system. And yes, the ADL is left wing, lying about Tucker was another conformation of that.

                            https://spectator.org/adl-jonathan-greenblatt-left/
                            That is Mr Fischer's opinion but it should be remembered that the conservative side has its own share of anti-Semites.
                            "It ain't necessarily so
                            The things that you're liable
                            To read in the Bible
                            It ain't necessarily so
                            ."

                            Sportin' Life
                            Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
                              Anti-semitic.
                              The term anti-Semitism/antisemitism first appeared in 1879 by a German agitator.

                              Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
                              And?
                              Because he could not persuade Jews to convert.

                              Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
                              I didn't say they were (indeed, if we want to nitpick, I never used the word you've tried to use)
                              Luther did not live in "Germany". The states were not unified into one country until 1871.

                              Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
                              Certainly, but none of those as long as Germany's history of anti-semitic behavior.
                              https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/conte...rticle/pogroms

                              Pogrom is a Russian word meaning “to wreak havoc, to demolish violently.” Historically, the term refers to violent attacks by local non-Jewish populations on Jews in the Russian Empire and in other countries. The first such incident to be labeled a pogrom View This Term in the Glossary is believed to be anti-Jewish rioting in Odessa in 1821. As a descriptive term, “pogrom” came into common usage with extensive anti-Jewish riots that swept the southern and western provinces of the Russian Empire in 1881–1884, following the assassination of Tsar Alexander II.




                              https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org...-of-settlement

                              The Pale of Settlement (Rus. Cherta [postoyannoy yevreyskoy] osedlosti) was a territory within the borders of czarist Russia wherein the residence of Jews was legally authorized. Limits for the area in which Jewish settlement was permissible in Russia came into being when Russia was confronted with the necessity of adjusting to a Jewish element within its borders, from which Jews had been excluded since the end of the 15th century. These limitations were consonant with the general conception of freedom of movement of persons which then applied. At the time, most of the inhabitants of Russia, not only the serfs but also townsmen and merchants, were deprived of freedom of movement and confined to their places of residence.

                              After the first partition of Poland in 1772, when masses of Jews living within the former country came under Russian rule, it was decided (1791) to permit the presence of the Jews not only in their former regions of residence, but also in the new areas which had then been annexed from Turkey on the Black Sea shore, in whose rapid colonization the Russian government was interested. On the other hand, Jewish merchants were prohibited from trading in the provinces of inner Russia. These decrees were intended to serve the national and economic interests of the state by preventing competition of the Jewish with Russian merchants and encouraging settlement in the desolate steppes of southern Russia; after a time these formed the provinces of Kherson, Dnepropetrovsk (Yekaterinoslav), and Taurida (Crimea). The Russian government also sought thus to reduce the excess of Jews in the branches of commerce and innkeeping within the territory annexed from Poland. In 1794, the earlier decree was ratified and applied to the regions which had been annexed with the second partition of Poland (1793) also – the provinces of Minsk, Volhynia, and Podolia – as well as to the region to the east of the River Dnieper (the provinces of Chernigov and Poltava ).

                              With the third partition of Poland (1795), the law was also applied to the provinces of Vilna and Grodno. In 1799, Courland was added to the Pale of Settlement. In the “Jewish Statute” promulgated in 1804, the province of Astrakhan and the whole of the northern Caucasus were added to the regions open to Jews. In 1812, upon its annexation, Bessarabia was also included. The “Kingdom of Poland,” incorporated into Russia in 1815, which included ten provinces that later became known as the “Vistula Region,” was not officially included within the Pale of Settlement and, until 1868, the transit of Jews through it to the Lithuanian and Ukrainian provinces was prohibited by law. In practice, however, the provinces of the Vistula Region were generally included within the Pale of Settlement.

                              To sum up, it was the intention of the Russian legislators of the reigns of Catherine II and Alexander I to extend the Pale of Settlement beyond the regions acquired from Poland only to those areas where Jews could serve as a colonizing element. However, from the reign of Alexander II the restrictive aspects of the Pale of Settlement became accentuated, for while freedom of movement for non-Jews in Russia increased, in particular after the emancipation of the serfs, the restrictions on the movement of Jews beyond the Pale remained in force, and became explicitly underlined within the Pale itself. This was accomplished both by anti-Jewish enactments on the part of the government and by the growing impatience of Jewish society and liberal public opinion with these disabilities.

                              Czar Nicholas I (under whom the term “Pale of Settlement” was coined) removed Courland from the Pale in 1829; however, the rights of the Jews already settled and registered there were maintained. In 1835 the provinces of Astrakhan and the northern Caucasus were excluded from the Pale. In 1843, Nicholas I ordered the expulsion of the Jews from a strip of 50 versts (about 33 mi.) in width extending along the border with Prussia and Austria. Many difficulties were encountered in the application of this law, and in 1858 it was redrafted to apply only to those Jews who would wish to settle in the border zone after that year. A similar law which had applied to the provinces of Russian Poland (where the border zone closed to Jewish residence was 21 versts in width) was abrogated in 1862. In 1827, severe restrictions were imposed on the residence of Jews in Kiev, the largest town in southern Russia, which served as an important commercial center for the surrounding regions which had a dense Jewish population.

                              Under Alexander II, rights of residence beyond the Pale began to be granted to various classes of the Jewish population: in 1859 to merchants able to pay the registration fees of the First Guild; in 1861 to university graduates, as well as those engaged in medical professions (such as dentists, male and female nurses, and midwives from 1879); and in 1865 to various craftsmen. The right of residence throughout Russia was also granted to Cantonists who had remained Jews and to their offspring (the so-called “Nicholas soldiers”). The Jews hoped that these regulations would prove to be the first steps toward the complete abolition of the Pale of Settlement. However, they were disappointed when these alleviations came to a complete halt after 1881, as part of the general reaction in Russia at this period. The “Temporary ( May ) Laws” of 1881 prohibited any new settlement by Jews outside towns and townlets in the Pale of Settlement (this law did not apply to the Vistula Region). Jews who had been living in villages before the publication of the decree were authorized to reside in those same villages only. The peasants were granted the right of demanding the expulsion of the Jews who lived among them. These decrees were bound up with intensified administrative pressure, brutality by local authorities, and the systematic acceptance of bribery on the part of the lower administrative ranks. Occasionally, new places were excluded from the Pale of Settlement, such as Rostov and Taganrog (1887) and the spa town of Yalta (1893). During the years 1891–92, thousands of Jewish craftsmen and their families were expelled from Moscow.




                              Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
                              I understand, it's hard for you to accept the history of your country.
                              I fully accept my country's twelve years of insanity but anti-Semitism/anti-Judaism was not unique to the German states or indeed to later unified Germany.
                              "It ain't necessarily so
                              The things that you're liable
                              To read in the Bible
                              It ain't necessarily so
                              ."

                              Sportin' Life
                              Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post



                                If you "say" so.
                                And that "says" it all

                                If you had any sort of refutation at all you would have made it. That you didn't shows you don't.

                                I'm always still in trouble again

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