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  • China after Xi

    With all eyes on Putin and Russia, nobody has been paying much attention to Xi and China.

    It's from The Sun, but still raises a bunch of interesting issues

    Source: President Xi ‘suffering from deadly brain aneurysm’ as he faces coup over devastating Covid lockdowns, reports claim


    PRESIDENT Xi Jinping is suffering from a deadly brain aneurysm, reports claim - as he faces a coup over China's devastating Covid lockdowns.

    The Chinese president, 68, reportedly wanted to be treated with traditional medicine rather than undergo major surgery after he was rushed to the hospital.

    According to news agency ANI, Xi suffered the "cerebral aneurysm" at the end of 2021.

    Rumours about the state of Xi's health have been swirling for years, with fresh speculation sparked by his unexplained absence from the Beijing Winter Olympics.

    In March 2019, during a visit to Italy and France, Xi was spotted with a noticeable limp and needing help while trying to sit down.

    And addressing the public in Shenzhen in October 2020 - at the height of the Covid pandemic - observers noted his slow speech and coughing.

    Fears of a coup over Xi's extreme Covid lockdown measures have also been mounting.

    Instead of learning to live with the virus, the totalitarian regime's response to the pandemic is to instead aim to have zero cases with tightly shut borders, mass testing and sweeping quarantines.

    China's brutal strategy sees extreme restrictions imposed on towns and cities with just a handful of infections, with entire buildings sealed off even if only one case has been recorded as those who test positive are shipped off to horror quarantine camps.

    And this week, the Politburo Standing Committee warned people not to question the strict policies that have locked down cities across the country.

    At the same time, Premier Li Keqiang sounded the alarm over China's "complicated and grave" employment situation in China caused by the lockdown measures.

    Small businesses have suffered, with 4.37million closing in China while only 1.32milion new ones registered, according to Tianyancha, a business data and investigation platform.

    But the mixed messages from China's government chiefs has raised questions over whether there's a split brewing at the top as question marks hang over how sustainable Xi's hardline strategy is.

    Xi and Li were once considered rivals for the top job, Bloomberg reports.

    Richard McGregor, author of the The Party: The Secret World of China’s Communist Rulers, said: "It is probably a stretch to say that Xi and Li are personally at loggerheads, but their statements do represent divergent views within the system on Covid and its impact.

    "China is reaching the point where the need for a genuine debate about whether the price being paid for further lockdowns is worth the economic damage."

    Experts have already claimed Xi could be ousted by rivals fed up with the country's regime within the next 18 months.

    Roger Garside - author of China Coup: The Great Leap to Freedom - said Xi will be booted out by internal opponents within the Chinese Communist Party in a coup in Beijing.

    'HEAVY COSTS'

    The former diplomat believes the main threat to Xi will come from "within the top ranks" of the Communist Party.

    He said China's zero-Covid policy could be Xi's undoing as his overblown strategy has "locked the country into isolation" from the rest of the world.

    Mr Garside believes the Communist regime has backed China into a corner as its drastic zero-tolerance approach could "implode upon them or cause a political crisis".

    He said the hardline policy could inflict "heavy costs" on China's economy and society as citizens grapple with fast-spreading outbreaks and unemployment as businesses are forced to close.

    He told The Sun Online: "It is conceivable that their Covid-19 strategy will implode upon them or cause a political crisis."

    Already in 2017, a top Chinese official claimed several top members of the Communist Party were plotting to seize power from Xi.

    It led to a corruption crackdown which saw the arrests of three party members, BBC reported.

    A health chief also claimed Xi could be overthrown if scientists proved Covid escaped from a Wuhan lab.

    Jamie Metzl told LBC last year: "In China, if it was absolutely proven, I think there is a real chance Xi Jinping could be overthrown.

    "There would be claims for reparations around the world against China.



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    So if Xi steps down/removed/dies, will Winnie the Pooh be allowed back in China?


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    Maybe Elon Musk can buy China?



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    • #3
      Maybe now we can name the next Covid variant after him.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Faber View Post
        Maybe now we can name the next Covid variant after him.
        Maybe in another 89 years...

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        • #5
          I blame MM for calling it the "China virus". I think they took it to heart.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Alien View Post
            I blame MM for calling it the "China virus". I think they took it to heart.
            And here I thought it might be my own preference for the Chicom coronavirus that done did it.

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            • #7
              A vacuum will be created and someone just as bad, or worse, will fill it.


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              • #8
                Originally posted by Alien View Post
                I blame MM for calling it the "China virus". I think they took it to heart.
                Oh, come on, I have never referred to it as the "China virus".



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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

                  Oh, come on, I have never referred to it as the "China virus".



                  I call it the "China flu".
                  Sorry, I'm having a bad day mentally.

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                  • #10
                    First I've heard of the health issue. I thought I'd seen pictures of him at the Olympics with Putin? Anyway, most of the speculation has been around whether or not he can keep things together long enough to be re-elected for an unprecedented third term later this year. The insane adherence to covid 0 being an attempt to save face before the party congress meets.

                    The real estate industry may beat covid to the punch 0 it's just about in free fall and a collapse is going to be a really big domino in a sea of tottering dominoes.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by mossrose View Post
                      A vacuum will be created and someone just as bad, or worse, will fill it.
                      I don't think that's necessarily the case. While I'm sure whoever his replacement will be won't suddenly be saying "everything we were doing is wrong, let's ditch authoritarianism and embrace democracy" or anything like that, there are still different degrees of authoritarianism. Xi Jinping seems to be much more repressive than his predecessor, Hu Jintao, was. For example, China is often criticized for its treatment of the Uyghurs. While China obviously wasn't the nicest to them before Jinping, it was under Jinping's rule that things really ramped up against them.

                      So I don't see any particular reason to assume that Jinping's successor will be as bad or worse. I think he could be better. But, of course, he could be worse as well. I don't know the interior structure of the Chinese Communist Party anywhere near enough to try to offer a guess as to which scenario is most likely.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Terraceth View Post
                        I don't think that's necessarily the case. While I'm sure whoever his replacement will be won't suddenly be saying "everything we were doing is wrong, let's ditch authoritarianism and embrace democracy" or anything like that, there are still different degrees of authoritarianism. Xi Jinping seems to be much more repressive than his predecessor, Hu Jintao, was. For example, China is often criticized for its treatment of the Uyghurs. While China obviously wasn't the nicest to them before Jinping, it was under Jinping's rule that things really ramped up against them.

                        So I don't see any particular reason to assume that Jinping's successor will be as bad or worse. I think he could be better. But, of course, he could be worse as well. I don't know the interior structure of the Chinese Communist Party anywhere near enough to try to offer a guess as to which scenario is most likely.
                        If Xi is not long for power, the article mentioned Li Keqiang, as the likely successor, who I haven't heard much about except he is a hand's on policy wonk who focuses on the economy, and said that China no longer needs the American market to survive.

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                        • #13
                          What if Pootie cacks of cancer and Xi and Uncle Joe both pop aneurysms all on the same day?
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by NorrinRadd View Post
                            What if Pootie cacks of cancer and Xi and Uncle Joe both pop aneurysms all on the same day?
                            Likely the largest reshuffling of the deck in history

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by mossrose View Post
                              A vacuum will be created and someone just as bad, or worse, will fill it.
                              That's my concern. As awful as he is, Xi is probably the most pragmatic ruler they've had since their commie revolution IIRC, the others have been various degrees of worse.
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