One thing that I'm having a hard time following in this debate is why some believe that a woman's bodily autonomy is a greater good, or more important, than a human life? What is the justification for that specific hierarchy of values?
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Abortion and Bodily Autonomy
Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
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Originally posted by Machinist View PostThey don't see it as a life.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
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Originally posted by seer View Post
That is irrational, of course it is a life, a human life.
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Originally posted by Machinist View Post
They don't see it that way. I believe it is a life. At what point the cells become a life may not be to clear to me right now, but I am pro-life. Pro-choice and pro-abortionist do not accept the belief that the fetus is a life.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
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Originally posted by seer View PostOne thing that I'm having a hard time following in this debate is why some believe that a woman's bodily autonomy is a greater good, or more important, than a human life? What is the justification for that specific hierarchy of values?
My husband has said, for decades now, that we gladly offer our children to be burnt on the altar of free sex.
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Originally posted by mossrose View Post
They’ve been fed the lie that the baby is not human until it is born, and they’ve swallowed the lie in order to continue to live their own selfish lives doing whatever they want. The culture and the government has aided and abetted them.
My husband has said, for decades now, that we gladly offer our children to be burnt on the altar of free sex.
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Originally posted by seer View PostOne thing that I'm having a hard time following in this debate is why some believe that a woman's bodily autonomy is a greater good, or more important, than a human life? What is the justification for that specific hierarchy of values?
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Originally posted by Machinist View PostThey don't see it as a life.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
That's pretty much it. The old "nothing but a clump of cells" lie when an embryo is, in fact, a highly organized organism that meets even the strictest scientific definition of life.
If the science were perfected to be able to tell with certainty that the egg was indeed fertilized yesterday, then taking a pill to terminate that pregnancy today would take care of the entire war between the opposing groups.
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Originally posted by Machinist View Post
I don't know much about this morning after pill, but it seems like a good solution if the science behind it were perfected. I understand that most Christians on this forum believe that life begins at conception. I'm not so sure. If the embryo can be terminated before a certain phase, then I personally don't see a problem with that. What phase is that? It is unclear to me, but just recently the thought came to me that maybe it's when the blood forms (life is in the blood). Terminating a pregnancy before the blood forms doesn't result in spilled blood.
If the science were perfected to be able to tell with certainty that the egg was indeed fertilized yesterday, then taking a pill to terminate that pregnancy today would take care of the entire war between the opposing groups.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Machinist View PostI don't know much about this morning after pill, but it seems like a good solution if the science behind it were perfected. I understand that most Christians on this forum believe that life begins at conception. I'm not so sure. If the embryo can be terminated before a certain phase, then I personally don't see a problem with that. What phase is that? It is unclear to me, but just recently the thought came to me that maybe it's when the blood forms (life is in the blood). Terminating a pregnancy before the blood forms doesn't result in spilled blood.
Though you've raised a point I'd never thought of, and am not sure about - the possibility that some-one taking a morning-after pill had unknowingly already been pregnant for some time.
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Originally posted by Roy View PostThe problem with your approach is that, as you have just seen, many Christians on this forum refuse to accept that there could be any such phase, and tend to assume anyone who would allow termination before such a phase would allow termination at any time before birth.
Though you've raised a point I'd never thought of, and am not sure about - the possibility that some-one taking a morning-after pill had unknowingly already been pregnant for some time.
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