I'm The Most Extreme!

[Juvenal]

And the pile-on begins …

The American Nazi Party is still alive and kicking to this very day my friend.

So are anarchists (they now go by the label Antifa).

Maybe spend more time with the news......

All y’all together don’t follow as much news as this junkie, and when it comes to anarchism, I’m probably a bit less likely to take you seriously than Caryn. She may be a kook, but she’s our kook.

Given that old Joe talks about J6 being the worst thing since the Civil War your attempt to excuse his buffoonery by acting like only "recent politics" counts is a non-starter. And even then the antifa/BLM crowd make a typical MAGA supporter look like a sainted figure in comparison.

And as for your assertion that the Republican party took in the more racist elements of the Democratic party after the Civil Rights era, um... no. Those folks were solidly yellow dog Democrats who would rather have needles stuck in their eyes than even think of voting for a Republican. Ever. What happened, is that over the decades, they pretty much died off (if you were just 30 in say 1965 you would be 87 today).

And if you want to look for the party who's members attack Asians and are openly anti-Semitic, take a look at the one that starts with the letter "D."

But it is kind of cute how you keep pretending that old Joe isn't in deep into cognitive decline, and that he still has all his marbles, but please don't expect everyone else to believe that nonsense.

How the ‘Party of Lincoln’ Won Over the Once Democratic South

I know more history than y’all put together, too.

First he said in American history, then he cleaned it up and said in recent American history...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DITJ4Dnhj6U

The largest threat to democracy in the country’s history was the Civil War. In the time since then, there’s only been one meaningful attempt to overturn a presidential election at the hands of a mob, and that mob was MAGA-led.

Biden's dementia does make the news. A lot. Maybe you should check out more news than the NY Times.

No serious person thinks ice cream is evidence of dementia. These people are lying to you and you should stop listening to them.

[seanD]

I would like to thank all the little people for this very prestigious award!

This sounds a lot like Hillary's "deplorables" election flub. It's obvious it wasn't just Biden and his addled brain, since Psaki doubled down on that sentiment. If I didn't think the left was dumb enough to sabotage their own political cause, I'd suspect they're TRYING to spur on a red wave in November.

[Mountain Man]

As I said in the abortion thread, I am amazed that now wanting America to be great again and to protect the life of unborn children is an extremist view! The world is upside down.

I guess I am proud to be an "extremist" then.
Make America Great Again.

Come soon, Lord Jesus!

For as long as abortion has been a political issue, those of us who believe it is immoral to kill human life in the womb have been viewed by the left as "extremists".

[Mountain Man]

Keep in mind that old Joe has also said that J6 was the "worst attack on our democracy since the Civil War."

Worse than Pearl Harbor. Worse than 9/11.

The elevator just doesn't make it to the top floor these days.

There are a lot of liberals who believe that as well, and I suspect some of them post regularly on this forum.

[Gondwanaland]

And the pile-on begins …

dude, you quoted me (and several other people), and I responded. The hell is wrong with you?

Literally 3 of the 4 people you just group quoted are people who you group quoted in that prior post and those are the responses to your group quote. How in the blue blazes is that "piling on"???

All y’all together don’t follow as much news as this junkie, and when it comes to anarchism, I’m probably a bit less likely to take you seriously than Caryn. She may be a kook, but she’s our kook.

That's nice for you. Now address my actual post or run along, Mr Victim Complex.

[Mountain Man]

So is the Communist Party, which quit nominating their own candidates for president awhile back and started supporting the Democrat's pick. I guess that the Democrats have swung so far to the left that even hardline commies don't see all that much of a difference any more.

Reminds me of how Hillary and Bernie were stumped by the question, "What's the difference between a Democrat, and a socialist?"

[Sparko]

For as long as abortion has been a political issue, those of us who believe it is immoral to kill human life in the womb have been viewed by the left as "extremists".

And yet, historically that is exactly what the majority of people have always believed, that abortion is wrong. That's why we are called "conservatives" because we try to conserve the values of our country. The exact opposite of "extreme" or "radical"

It's another case of the left accusing the right of what they are.

[Ronson]

No serious person thinks ice cream is evidence of dementia. These people are lying to you and you should stop listening to them.

Deep down, honestly, you don't believe Biden is showing signs of dementia?

[rogue06]

And the pile-on begins …



All y’all together don’t follow as much news as this junkie, and when it comes to anarchism, I’m probably a bit less likely to take you seriously than Caryn. She may be a kook, but she’s our kook.



How the ‘Party of Lincoln’ Won Over the Once Democratic South

I know more history than y’all put together, too.



The largest threat to democracy in the country’s history was the Civil War. In the time since then, there’s only been one meaningful attempt to overturn a presidential election at the hands of a mob, and that mob was MAGA-led.



No serious person thinks ice cream is evidence of dementia. These people are lying to you and you should stop listening to them.

I've seen the articles and dissected the elections cycle after cycle when I believe carpe once brought it up. The evidence does not match the claims.

Just for a quickie, let's use Georgia, a place where I have some experience with, and was repeatedly described as being deeply red until 2018 or so. It got it's first Republican Senator since the one from the start of Reconstruction, in 1980 and didn't have two Republican Senators for the first time until 2004.

So let's look at the Lt. Governor and Governorships. Surely, since all the racists migrated to the Republican Party they took those positions over in the 1970s, or 1980s... well by the 1990s for sure!

First Republican governor in 2003. First Lt. Governor in 2006^[1].

Maybe the state legislature. You can see for yourself that even as late as 2001-2002 the Democrats still had complete control. By the next session, that started to change with the Republicans gaining the state Senate for 2003-2004 but the state House still remaining in the Democrat's control. It wasn't until 2006 that the Republicans gained control of both branches of the General Assembly (state legislature).

So Georgia wasn't taken over by the Republicans until the early 2000s. Less than twenty years ago, or for another perspective about the time George W. Bush won reelection.

Even a mathemagician can figure that in the case of Senators, Lt. Governors and Governors that is almost two generations after the Civil and Voting Rights Acts which the Democrats filibustered so hard against^[2].

With, what one, notable exception the Dixiecrats (note they weren't called Dixiecans), remained loyal Democrats until the bitter end^[2], as did their supporters.

Aside from having different ideas of what constitutes "meaningful," your transparent attempt to move the goal posts could have been more subtle even if you didn't try. Old Joe wasn't just talking about presidential elections when he said it was the "worst attack on America" or when he claimed that J6 was the "worst attack on our democracy since the Civil War."

And there have been a series of much more violent, even lethal assaults on the Capitol^[3], than J6.

Since I'm behind on what I planned to do today, I'll do a copy pasta

Old Joe was on TV declaring that how during the Civil War insurrectionists never made it to the capitol much less entered it and how that was the first time.

Old Joe is confused.

Old Joe is wrong.

Just off the top of my head...

What about the Puerto Rican separatists that entered the House of Representatives in the '50s and opened fire on the Congressmen, shooting five -- one seriously?

What about the guy (a university professor I believe) who set off a bomb consisting of a couple of sticks of dynamite inside the capitol to protest WWI? Fortunately the Senate chambers, where he wanted to put the bomb, was locked, so he stuck it in a nearby closet so when it exploded nobody was hurt.

What about the bombing of the Capitol's north wing during the 80s in protest to protest our involvement in Lebanon? Fortunately nobody was injured but only because the Senate adjourned earlier than expected.

What about when a man stormed the Capitol in an attempt to assassinate the House Majority Whip at the time, Tom DeLay (R-TX), killing two Capitol Police officers before being subdued? IIRC, that was when Clinton was president.

And of course, most recently, what about the angry mob that stormed the Capitol during the Kavanaugh confirmation hearing? Their behavior even caused now VP Kamala Harris to tell her fellow travelers "We will not be bullied" and resulted in hundreds being arrested after swarming into the Senate buildings and galleries, including the Russell Senate Office Building rotunda. Moreover, a couple of them even forcibly entered an elevator with then Senator Jeff Flake, refusing to let the elevator move or Flake exit, in order to physically intimidate him into asking for the FBI to do yet another investigation (which found nothing) and delaying the process for several days. The MSM hailed that confrontation where he was likely in far greater danger than AOC and her drama queen act ever was (not even being in the same building), which the same media was incredibly sympathetic toward.


ETA: And how can I forget this

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The same clown who captivated everyone with her tale of being terrorized by the Jan. 6 protestors -- even though they were in a different building

That list leaves out a bombing of the Capitol during the Weather Underground during the Vietnam War.

Finally, eating ice cream is not a sign of dementia. Nobody says that. Instead,

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1. Again, not counting early Reconstruction after the Civil War

2. Interestingly, the one who had filibustered the longest (IIRC setting the record) and who had been a "kleagle" (recruiter) as well as an Exalted Cyclops in the Ku Klux Klan (and lied repeatedly about his KKK membership), Senator Robert Byrd (D-WVa), and who as late as 2001 apparently still felt comfortable enough using the [n-word] in public that he dropped it twice during a TV interview, kept getting promoted in the Senate. First Senate Whip in the early 70s, then Majority Leader, and when he retired from that position to serve as President pro tempore, who presides over the entire Senate when the Vice President isn't there, and third in the line of succession to the presidency, after the Vice President and the Speaker of the House of Representatives.

3. not including unarmed women crawling through a broken window with several cops on scene being shot by a nervous cop

[seanD]

Deep down, honestly, you don't believe Biden is showing signs of dementia?

The connection to dementia and ice cream is a new one on me. It sounds like he's doing what "fact checkers" do: creating some kind of absurd strawman, unless it was some kind of joke.

[Ronson]

The connection to dementia and ice cream is a new one on me. It sounds like he's doing what "fact checkers" do: creating some kind of absurd strawman, unless it was some kind of joke.

I'm just curious if Juvenal actually believes Biden has all of his marbles. I wasn't focused on the ice cream part. But that would be an easy one to validate or dismiss in Biden's case, is find out if he's always been partial to ice cream. My father became diabetic in his later years but refused to give up on ice cream because that was his only vice (as he would say). But he never developed dementia.

[seanD]

I'm just curious if Juvenal actually believes Biden has all of his marbles. I wasn't focused on the ice cream part. But that would be an easy one to validate or dismiss in Biden's case, is find out if he's always been partial to ice cream. My father became diabetic in his later years but refused to give up on ice cream because that was his only vice (as he would say). But he never developed dementia.

Typically when someone uses a strawman to bolster a defensive argument, they don't really believe the argument they're defending. Juvenal knows Biden is in cognitive decline, which is why I'm guessing he brought up that ridiculous strawman. I've just never heard of it being associated to Biden's dementia before.

[Ronson]

Typically when someone uses a strawman to bolster a defensive argument, they don't really believe the argument they're defending. Juvenal knows Biden is in cognitive decline, which is why I'm guessing he brought up that ridiculous strawman. I've just never heard of it being associated to Biden's dementia before.

I've heard the ice cream/Biden/dementia connection before. It sort of goes along with him wearing bunny pajamas in the Oval Office.

[rogue06]

Typically when someone uses a strawman to bolster a defensive argument, they don't really believe the argument they're defending. Juvenal knows Biden is in cognitive decline, which is why I'm guessing he brought up that ridiculous strawman. I've just never heard of it being associated to Biden's dementia before.

There are a lot of jokes about Biden and ice cream cones and it becoming a symbol for his dementia, but not in the way Juvie implies. More of, give him a cone to shut him up (or to reward him for not making headlines with one of his off-the-cuff remarks), and the fact that various groups recommend giving dementia patients ice cream over psychoactive drugs.

[Starlight]

There are a lot of jokes about Biden and ice cream cones and it becoming a symbol for his dementia, but not in the way Juvie implies. More of, give him a cone to shut him up (or to reward him for not making headlines with one of his off-the-cuff remarks), and the fact that various groups recommend giving dementia patients ice cream over psychoactive drugs.

It's interesting how you guys spin something that makes Dem politicians relatable to the average person, e.g. liking ice cream, into some sort of reason to distrust them.