OK Groomer...

[Bill the Cat]

I see. So you expect government schools to then teach a religious worldview? Because right now, this is fast becoming the secular world view on this issue. This IS the non- religious conclusions of science as it is understood/taught right now. And that is what public schools are obligated to teach. You can't change that by arguing from a religious perspective. And you can't expect them to do anything else.

So why are you not trying to work on this from a perspective that is based on research, that includes what is understood about trans scientifically, psychologically?

As long as you dance about making ignorant declarations that are clearly base on what you want to be true, what you believe to be true from a religious perspective, and you offer nothing else:

YOU HAVE NO VOICE IN THIS DEBATE IN THE SECULAR ARENA, which is where these sorts of decisions are made.

BTW, there are actual scientists, actual psychologists, that have research that runs counter to the overwhelming extreme view that is trending, that tends to over emphasize how many people are actually trans, how many actually need to fully transition, and the idea that there are no inherent distinctions that must be respected and considered cis to trans.

But they aren't "transitioning" to anything. No more than a woman who gets breast augmentation transitions from an A cup to a DD.

[rogue06]

For that matter, doesn't the dichotomy of "binary" and "non-binary" set up its own binary system?

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[Gondwanaland]

For that matter, doesn't the dichotomy of "binary" and "non-binary" set up its own binary system?

That and stating that you are non-binary and not one of the 'binary' choices.... would also make everyone else by definition non-binary as well if your choice is male, female, non-binary then male and female are no longer binary but also non-binary.

[rogue06]

Yes, girls have cooties!

Only the finest kind. smiley dirtyflirt.gif

[rogue06]

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[tabibito]

For that matter, doesn't the dichotomy of "binary" and "non-binary" set up its own binary system?

For the scenario under review - no. The conditions are mutually exclusive.

but I was beaten to the punch for pointing it out:

if your choice is male, female, non-binary then male and female are no longer binary but also non-binary.

[Sparko]

Why can't schools just stick to teaching history, english, math, geography, etc? There is no reason to teach sexual relationships to elementary students.

[Alien]

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There you are. Groomers make children prettier! I knew it all along.

Same as dogs I guess.

[Alien]

Why can't schools just stick to teaching history, english, math, geography, etc? There is no reason to teach sexual relationships to elementary students.

"When I was a boy, I got six of the best every day. Made me what I am."

Small prize for anyone identifying that quote.

[tabibito]

"When I was a boy, I got six of the best every day. Made me what I am."

Small prize for anyone identifying that quote.

No idea, but the possibility that "what I am" would be a psychopath does present as a possibility.

[Faber]

"When I was a boy, I got six of the best every day. Made me what I am."

Small prize for anyone identifying that quote.

Raymond Crooke comes close. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9-saQQWs2g

[Alien]

No idea, but the possibility that "what I am" would be a psychopath does present as a possibility.

Somewhat unfair as probably nobody over here has heard of it. It's from a book entitled Down with Skool, by Geoffrey Willans with illustrations by Ronald Searle. It was published in the 1950's. I can' find that image, but I have found others that I tried to copy/paste without success.

The accompanying picture showed a man dressed in a suit with a collar and tie pulled tightly around his throat. His face was rigid, and he had obviously had all humor, originality and self respect beaten out of him. My memory was triggered by Sparko's description of school as it once was. And yes, at my school the "cane" was used, but only by the Headmaster, and not every day! To me, the worst part of it was not the beating, but having to convince him afterwards that I understood that whatever I did was wrong and that I was truly sorry for it. In reality, I usually considered my "offenses" to be trivial and my only regret was getting caught. You didn't get out of his office without some convincing acting though.

[rogue06]

Why can't schools just stick to teaching history, english, math, geography, etc? There is no reason to teach sexual relationships to elementary students.

Why is it that talking sexually around adults at work deemed sexual harassment and can get you terminated, whereas talking sexually around young children at school is considered essential?

[rogue06]

Somewhat unfair as probably nobody over here has heard of it. It's from a book entitled Down with Skool, by Geoffrey Willans with illustrations by Ronald Searle. It was published in the 1950's. I can' find that image, but I have found others that I tried to copy/paste without success.

The accompanying picture showed a man dressed in a suit with a collar and tie pulled tightly around his throat. His face was rigid, and he had obviously had all humor, originality and self respect beaten out of him. My memory was triggered by Sparko's description of school as it once was. And yes, at my school the "cane" was used, but only by the Headmaster, and not every day! To me, the worst part of it was not the beating, but having to convince him afterwards that I understood that whatever I did was wrong and that I was truly sorry for it. In reality, I usually considered my "offenses" to be trivial and my only regret was getting caught. You didn't get out of his office without some convincing acting though.

Personally I would have guessed it was something from Monty Python.

Anwho...

rogue powaz activate! Form of an image!

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I had to convert it to a png and from there a jpg.
You're welcome.

[Alien]

Personally I would have guessed it was something from Monty Python.

Anwho...

rogue powaz activate! Form of an image!

769bda43-7ca9-4a0a-b5d2-9931acd818a8.jpg
I had to convert it to a png and from there a jpg.
You're welcome.

Thank you! You found it too, as I had failed to do. I had no idea I needed the ATTACH thingy. Is there somewhere I can look up all these neat commands? I really have little knowledge of the formatting options available.