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1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View Post
Nonsense, we are not using government schools to do it.
So why are you not trying to work on this from a perspective that is based on research, that includes what is understood about trans scientifically, psychologically?
As long as you dance about making ignorant declarations that are clearly base on what you want to be true, what you believe to be true from a religious perspective, and you offer nothing else:
YOU HAVE NO VOICE IN THIS DEBATE IN THE SECULAR ARENA, which is where these sorts of decisions are made.
BTW, there are actual scientists, actual psychologists, that have research that runs counter to the overwhelming extreme view that is trending, that tends to over emphasize how many people are actually trans, how many actually need to fully transition, and the idea that there are no inherent distinctions that must be respected and considered cis to trans.
My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
I see. So you expect government schools to then teach a religious worldview? Because right now, this is fast becoming the secular world view on this issue. This IS the non- religious conclusions of science as it is understood/taught right now. And that is what public schools are obligated to teach. You can't change that by arguing from a religious perspective. And you can't expect them to do anything else.
So why are you not trying to work on this from a perspective that is based on research, that includes what is understood about trans scientifically, psychologically?
YOU HAVE NO VOICE IN THIS DEBATE IN THE SECULAR ARENA, which is where these sorts of decisions are made.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
BTW, there are actual scientists, actual psychologists, that have research that runs counter to the overwhelming extreme view that is trending, that tends to over emphasize how many people are actually trans, how many actually need to fully transition, and the idea that there are no inherent distinctions that must be respected and considered cis to trans.1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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NJ Gov. Murphy distances himself from 2nd graders learning gender identity, calls for age-appropriate content
NJ governor walks back defense of second-grade gender education
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/nj-...priate-content
Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostIt is hilarious listening to folks like you whine about the term "groomer" (which FWIU, Social Media is banning) considering all of the things y'all thought it was okay to call anyone you disagree with the over the last half of a decade."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by tabibito View PostA case can perhaps reasonably be made for a third and even a fourth gender, but male and female are not interchangable.
So what, to your mind, stops society saying that male and female are 'interchangable' as you put it - by which I assume you mean that a individual can/can't voluntarily move from one to the other? Why do you think society is allowed to create a 3rd and 4th gender, but isn't allowed to say that trans-women are defined to be allowed in the 'female' category and trans-men are defined as allowed in it's 'male' category? Cos it seems weird to me that you acknowledge society has the power to set and change social categories, but you seem to think it doesn't have the power to define its own 'male' and 'female' categories to include trans people, and I don't understand your reasoning behind this idea."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostYou seemed to reach the position in our discussion in another thread of acknowledging that the 'male' and 'female' categories, and any other gender categories that society happens to declare (3rd or 4th genders), are up to society as a whole to define. You seemed to acknowledge that society could change these definitions, just as society has done regarding marriage and same-sex couples.
So what, to your mind, stops society saying that male and female are 'interchangable' as you put it - by which I assume you mean that a individual can/can't voluntarily move from one to the other? Why do you think society is allowed to create a 3rd and 4th gender, but isn't allowed to say that trans-women are defined to be allowed in the 'female' category and trans-men are defined as allowed in it's 'male' category? Cos it seems weird to me that you acknowledge society has the power to set and change social categories, but you seem to think it doesn't have the power to define its own 'male' and 'female' categories to include trans people, and I don't understand your reasoning behind this idea.Last edited by tabibito; 04-14-2022, 05:45 AM.1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostIn this thread alone you've called your political opponents 'groomers' and '"insanity" or maybe just old-fashioned "evil."'. Maybe throw fewer stones in your glasshouse?
I'm always still in trouble again
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Originally posted by tabibito View Post
Third and fourth genders accommodate the fluidity of gender identities while being neither confrontational nor diminishing the value-as-a-human of the transgender person. A case might theoretically be made for counting trans-gendered people among those of their chosen identity if society at large chose that course, but that is thoroughly hypothetical - to date at least, acceptance of the claim is resisted across the board: there are of course some exceptions but they are a long way short of constituting a majority. Much to the point - trans-gender argument claims that gender is not binary ... from the perspective of that argument, what would justify a binary set of classifications?That's what
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