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  • #46
    Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
    I thought you just replaced them when they got too dirty
    It's worth considering.
    1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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    Scripture before Tradition:
    but that won't prevent others from
    taking it upon themselves to deprive you
    of the right to call yourself Christian.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by seer View Post

      Obviously you never cleaned an oven!
      That's women's work.



      More seriously, my oven has a self cleaning feature.

      Even more seriously, I know it's a horrible job, mainly by observation.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Alien View Post

        That's women's work.
        Well we agree on one thing!

        Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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        • #49
          Originally posted by seer View Post

          Nonsense, we are not using government schools to do it.
          I see. So you expect government schools to then teach a religious worldview? Because right now, this is fast becoming the secular world view on this issue. This IS the non- religious conclusions of science as it is understood/taught right now. And that is what public schools are obligated to teach. You can't change that by arguing from a religious perspective. And you can't expect them to do anything else.

          So why are you not trying to work on this from a perspective that is based on research, that includes what is understood about trans scientifically, psychologically?

          As long as you dance about making ignorant declarations that are clearly base on what you want to be true, what you believe to be true from a religious perspective, and you offer nothing else:

          YOU HAVE NO VOICE IN THIS DEBATE IN THE SECULAR ARENA, which is where these sorts of decisions are made.

          BTW, there are actual scientists, actual psychologists, that have research that runs counter to the overwhelming extreme view that is trending, that tends to over emphasize how many people are actually trans, how many actually need to fully transition, and the idea that there are no inherent distinctions that must be respected and considered cis to trans.




          My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

          If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

          This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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          • #50
            Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post

            I see. So you expect government schools to then teach a religious worldview? Because right now, this is fast becoming the secular world view on this issue. This IS the non- religious conclusions of science as it is understood/taught right now. And that is what public schools are obligated to teach. You can't change that by arguing from a religious perspective. And you can't expect them to do anything else.
            No, I don't expect the schools to teach my religion and I also don't expect the school to sexualize third graders - do you? And no this is not science - men can not become women.

            So why are you not trying to work on this from a perspective that is based on research, that includes what is understood about trans scientifically, psychologically?
            What are you taking about? Should we bring up and explain every human deviation in the class room? Minor attracted persons? Those who are sexually attracted to animals? Those trans-species people who think that they are in fact animals. S&M, every abnormal sexual behavior? No Jim, you don't get to put 'science' in front of an ideology and shove down the throats of my grandkids...


            YOU HAVE NO VOICE IN THIS DEBATE IN THE SECULAR ARENA, which is where these sorts of decisions are made.
            As a grandparent and a tax payer I certainly do have a voice - we already prevented this nonsense taking hold in our school district.
            Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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            • #51
              Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post

              BTW, there are actual scientists, actual psychologists, that have research that runs counter to the overwhelming extreme view that is trending, that tends to over emphasize how many people are actually trans, how many actually need to fully transition, and the idea that there are no inherent distinctions that must be respected and considered cis to trans.
              Assuming that there is any truth to this science of yours, the fact remains that women do not become men, nor men women. A case can perhaps reasonably be made for a third and even a fourth gender, but male and female are not interchangable.
              1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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              Scripture before Tradition:
              but that won't prevent others from
              taking it upon themselves to deprive you
              of the right to call yourself Christian.

              ⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛

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              • #52
                NJ Gov. Murphy distances himself from 2nd graders learning gender identity, calls for age-appropriate content

                NJ governor walks back defense of second-grade gender education


                https://www.foxnews.com/politics/nj-...priate-content
                Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                  It is hilarious listening to folks like you whine about the term "groomer" (which FWIU, Social Media is banning) considering all of the things y'all thought it was okay to call anyone you disagree with the over the last half of a decade.
                  In this thread alone you've called your political opponents 'groomers' and '"insanity" or maybe just old-fashioned "evil."'. Maybe throw fewer stones in your glasshouse?
                  "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                  "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                  "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by tabibito View Post
                    A case can perhaps reasonably be made for a third and even a fourth gender, but male and female are not interchangable.
                    You seemed to reach the position in our discussion in another thread of acknowledging that the 'male' and 'female' categories, and any other gender categories that society happens to declare (3rd or 4th genders), are up to society as a whole to define. You seemed to acknowledge that society could change these definitions, just as society has done regarding marriage and same-sex couples.

                    So what, to your mind, stops society saying that male and female are 'interchangable' as you put it - by which I assume you mean that a individual can/can't voluntarily move from one to the other? Why do you think society is allowed to create a 3rd and 4th gender, but isn't allowed to say that trans-women are defined to be allowed in the 'female' category and trans-men are defined as allowed in it's 'male' category? Cos it seems weird to me that you acknowledge society has the power to set and change social categories, but you seem to think it doesn't have the power to define its own 'male' and 'female' categories to include trans people, and I don't understand your reasoning behind this idea.
                    "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                    "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                    "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by seer View Post

                      Well we agree on one thing!
                      A first! Yippeee!!

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Alien View Post

                        A first! Yippeee!!

                        Yes, girls have cooties!

                        Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                          You seemed to reach the position in our discussion in another thread of acknowledging that the 'male' and 'female' categories, and any other gender categories that society happens to declare (3rd or 4th genders), are up to society as a whole to define. You seemed to acknowledge that society could change these definitions, just as society has done regarding marriage and same-sex couples.

                          So what, to your mind, stops society saying that male and female are 'interchangable' as you put it - by which I assume you mean that a individual can/can't voluntarily move from one to the other? Why do you think society is allowed to create a 3rd and 4th gender, but isn't allowed to say that trans-women are defined to be allowed in the 'female' category and trans-men are defined as allowed in it's 'male' category? Cos it seems weird to me that you acknowledge society has the power to set and change social categories, but you seem to think it doesn't have the power to define its own 'male' and 'female' categories to include trans people, and I don't understand your reasoning behind this idea.
                          Third and fourth genders accommodate the fluidity of gender identities while being neither confrontational nor diminishing the value-as-a-human of the transgender person. A case might theoretically be made for counting trans-gendered people among those of their chosen identity if society at large chose that course, but that is thoroughly hypothetical - to date at least, acceptance of the claim is resisted across the board: there are of course some exceptions but they are a long way short of constituting a majority. Much to the point - trans-gender argument claims that gender is not binary ... from the perspective of that argument, what would justify a binary set of classifications?
                          Last edited by tabibito; 04-14-2022, 05:45 AM.
                          1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
                          .
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                          Scripture before Tradition:
                          but that won't prevent others from
                          taking it upon themselves to deprive you
                          of the right to call yourself Christian.

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                          • #58
                            My dog's nails are getting really long. I need to take him to a {censored}

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                              In this thread alone you've called your political opponents 'groomers' and '"insanity" or maybe just old-fashioned "evil."'. Maybe throw fewer stones in your glasshouse?
                              Still funny coming from the side who for the past half decade could not think of anything too foul to call those they disagreed with, and with a substantial percent figuring that wasn't enough and turning to outright assault. You were even one of those calling for "Nazis" to get punched in the face.

                              I'm always still in trouble again

                              "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                              "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                              "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by tabibito View Post

                                Third and fourth genders accommodate the fluidity of gender identities while being neither confrontational nor diminishing the value-as-a-human of the transgender person. A case might theoretically be made for counting trans-gendered people among those of their chosen identity if society at large chose that course, but that is thoroughly hypothetical - to date at least, acceptance of the claim is resisted across the board: there are of course some exceptions but they are a long way short of constituting a majority. Much to the point - trans-gender argument claims that gender is not binary ... from the perspective of that argument, what would justify a binary set of classifications?
                                For that matter, doesn't the dichotomy of "binary" and "non-binary" set up its own binary system?
                                That's what
                                - She

                                Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                                - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                                I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                                - Stephen R. Donaldson

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