OK Groomer...

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

Wow. The looney is strong in this one.

The Christ Jesus of Pauline theology is not a real Galilean Jewish charismatic itinerant healer, exorcist, and teacher.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

I don't know where you picked up this strange notion that Christian parents focus on hell to the exclusion of all else.

I am not suggesting that "Christian parents focus on hell to the exclusion of all else" but when I asked this:

Using what criteria can abuse, manipulation, and possible exploitation in the name of religion as well as [your phrase] religious indoctrination ever be deemed beneficial?

seer replied with this:

So if I teach my kid that if he does not embrace the Christian faith that he is hell bound - is that abuse, manipulation, and exploitation?

[rogue06]

The Christ Jesus of Pauline theology is not a real Galilean Jewish charismatic itinerant healer, exorcist, and teacher.

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And not a very well informed one.

[Mountain Man]

I am not suggesting that "Christian parents focus on hell to the exclusion of all else" but when I asked this:

seer replied with this:

Right, and I don't see how explaining to a child the consequences of not following the teachings of Christ is any more manipulative or psychologically damaging than explaining to him the consequences of not wearing a seat belt, or not looking both ways before crossing the street.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

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And not a very well informed one.

Fundies write the darndest things.

[Gondwanaland]

Or Hindu parents or ultra orthodox Jewish parents. If a child is raised in fear and coerced through terror and indoctrination into uncritically accepting and [with regard to religions] believing what they are told, that is emotional and psychological abuse.

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So you would agree, the teaching of kids to accept transgenderism or else be cancelled and labeled a transphobe if you disagree with it, would be emotional and psychological abuse, correct?

[Mountain Man]

Fundies write the darndest things.

I don't suppose it has ever occurred to you that you're the fundie.

(What, you thought that term only applied to Christians?)

[Gondwanaland]

Fundies write the darndest things.

You do indeed.

[rogue06]

Fundies write the darndest things.

Indeed your scrawlings regarding Peter and Paul not existing, and other cuckoo-land musings, eminently qualified you as a Fundie Atheist.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

So you would agree, the teaching of kids to accept transgenderism or else be cancelled and labeled a transphobe if you disagree with it, would be emotional and psychological abuse, correct?

No I would argue that indoctrinating children through fear of some post mortem eternal torture and agony into uncritically accepting and believing some religious nonsense is emotional and psychological abuse. Do you want to disagree?

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

I don't suppose it has ever occurred to you that you're the fundie.

(What, you thought that term only applied to Christians?)

In what respect? Would you care to elaborate?

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

Indeed your scrawlings regarding Peter and Paul not existing, and other cuckoo-land musings, eminently qualified you as a Fundie Atheist.

All we have are the writings of someone who goes by the name of Paul. I suspect he probably was a real person but outside of those writings we know nothing about him. Acts can hardly be considered to be a sober dispassionate record, although some of the incidents mentioned in that text may have some historical basis.

As for Peter we have nothing that can be attested to be from his hand. Unless of course you are contending that the Apocalypse of Peter and the Acts of Peter are the genuine writings of a first century Galilean artisan fisherman?

[Gondwanaland]

No I would argue that indoctrinating children through fear of some post mortem eternal torture and agony into uncritically accepting and believing some religious nonsense is emotional and psychological abuse. Do you want to disagree?

Thank you for displaying your usual double standards. You can always be counted on to at least do that.


I'll note again the trans agenda perfectly matches your statement: "If a child is raised in fear and coerced through terror and indoctrination into uncritically accepting and [with regard to religions] believing what they are told", but magically that isn't indoctrinating children, yet somehow the thing you dislike IS. You couldn't manage to hold a single standard if your life depended on it.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

Thank you for displaying your usual double standards. You can always be counted on to at least do that.


I'll note again the trans agenda perfectly matches your statement: "If a child is raised in fear and coerced through terror and indoctrination into uncritically accepting and [with regard to religions] believing what they are told", but magically that isn't indoctrinating children, yet somehow the thing you dislike IS. You couldn't manage to hold a single standard if your life depended on it.

Here is what I posted earlier today to seer.

QUOTE=Hypatia_Alexandria;n1385407]

If the reference to the gay strip club refers to the incident on your other thread, I could find no video evidence of that event that showed what you and several others on the thread believed took place.

As to indoctrination regarding transgender ideology. If it is actual indoctrination to the exclusion of all other views and opinions, then I oppose it. I think you may be aware of my own views on transgender individuals.

However, if talking about these things is simply making children aware that not everyone is necessarily the same and encourages toleration and compassion, I have no objection.[/QUOTE]

Now what are your views on the indoctrination of children through fear of some post mortem eternal torture and agony into uncritically accepting and believing some religious nonsense? Do you not consider that to be emotional and psychological abuse?

Go on Gond dare to agree with me on one point!

[Gondwanaland]

Here is what I posted earlier today to seer.


Go on Gond dare to agree with me on one point!

Here is what you posted that I responded to, I couldn't give two fairy farts what you said in some post I didn't respond to, you twit. Ahem: "If a child is raised in fear and coerced through terror and indoctrination into uncritically accepting and [with regard to religions] believing what they are told"

The current trans ideology pushes EXACTLY the above.

Go on, dare to actually be consistent for once in your pathetic little life!

Now what are your views on the indoctrination of children through fear of some post mortem eternal torture and agony into uncritically accepting and believing some religious nonsense? Do you not consider that to be emotional and psychological abuse?

The same as my views on trans ideology currently being pushed in schools. Because unlike you, I'm consistent. See above.