World War Three?

[Ronson]

Fearmongering?

He says that the '24 election will be the perfect distraction. I would think that US's involvement in Ukraine and apparently depleting its weapons might serve as a pretty good distraction, but he's the expert.

Yes, fearmongering. Unless something highly unusual happens in regards to Taiwan in the next two years, there's no way China is going to provoke a war with the west. There's too much at stake for everybody concerned.

[Sparko]

Yes, fearmongering. Unless something highly unusual happens in regards to Taiwan in the next two years, there's no way China is going to provoke a war with the west. There's too much at stake for everybody concerned.

Yeah who would they sell their stuff to, or buy land from?

[seanD]

Yes, fearmongering. Unless something highly unusual happens in regards to Taiwan in the next two years, there's no way China is going to provoke a war with the west. There's too much at stake for everybody concerned.

In fairness to his prediction, it seems China is pretty much doing everything that would indicate an eventual attack other than the actual attack, including mobilizing their military in around the area, doing war drills and simulating faux attacks. By any measure, that would be an indication of something about to eventually go down. Whether it's within two years is a matter of debate.

[Ronson]

In fairness to his prediction, it seems China is pretty much doing everything that would indicate an eventual attack other than the actual attack, including mobilizing their military in around the area, doing war drills and simulating faux attacks. By any measure, that would be an indication of something about to eventually go down. Whether it's within two years is a matter of debate.

China has done that before. They've been saber-rattling for decades over Taiwan, making all sorts of aggressive signals. It's nothing new.

That's why I say, unless something highly unusual happens (like dimwit Biden signs a mutual-defense pact with Taiwan or tells Xi the US will begin recognizing Taiwan as the legitimate Chinese government) then China will continue to sit on their hands.

[seanD]

China has done that before. They've been saber-rattling for decades over Taiwan, making all sorts of aggressive signals. It's nothing new.

That's why I say, unless something highly unusual happens (like dimwit Biden signs a mutual-defense pact with Taiwan or tells Xi the US will begin recognizing Taiwan as the legitimate Chinese government) then China will continue to sit on their hands.

Another thing to consider, something this general wouldn't dare say though I have no doubt he may have been thinking it (in fact, he may have been insinuating this), is US politics currently being in shambles. Not only do we have an obvious mentally addled commander in chief, but one who's currently under investigation. War depeleting our weapons supplies, a braindead potus under investigation, China performing large military drills -- pretty good reasons to believe something's coming.

[Sparko]

Another thing to consider, something this general wouldn't dare say though I have no doubt he may have been thinking it (in fact, he may have been insinuating this), is US politics currently being in shambles. Not only do we have an obvious mentally addled commander in chief, but one who's currently under investigation. War depeleting our weapons supplies, a braindead potus under investigation, China performing large military drills -- pretty good reasons to believe something's coming.

One thing I will say about the USA is that despite us infighting and arguing among ourselves, when faced with an external threat, everyone gets on the same page pretty quick. At least for a while. e.g. 911. And i think China knows that.

[seanD]

One thing I will say about the USA is that despite us infighting and arguing among ourselves, when faced with an external threat, everyone gets on the same page pretty quick. At least for a while. e.g. 911. And i think China knows that.

I'm not sure how that might reflect towards a war thousands of miles from our border, although the propaganda machine seems to have gotten a lot of Americans fervently on board the Ukraine war, enthusiastically supporting tens of billions sent there in spite of polls showing the economy being a concern to them -- which is absolutely an amazing feat of brainwashing -- so you might be right.

[rogue06]

Yeah who would they sell their stuff to, or buy land from?

Africa. South America. The Middle East. China.

They've been preparing for this for awhile.

[rogue06]

I'm not sure how that might reflect towards a war thousands of miles from our border, although the propaganda machine seems to have gotten a lot of Americans fervently on board the Ukraine war, enthusiastically supporting tens of billions sent there in spite of polls showing the economy being a concern to them -- which is absolutely an amazing feat of brainwashing -- so you might be right.

Russia doesn't have the legions of bought and paid for Americans in the MSM and politics that China does.

[seanD]

Africa. South America. The Middle East. China.

They've been preparing for this for awhile.

Both US and China would be hurt economically, particularly the sanctions the west would undoubtedly level against China. But, like you said, China has been preparing for that by making alliances with the BRIC countries away from the dollar (it seems the sanctions against Russia sped this process up). Also, most notably, China is our second biggest foreign creditor with hundreds of billions of our treasuries, which is equivalent to a financial nuclear bomb, particularly given the situation we're presently in. IOW, in an currency war, China will soundly win in the end.

[rogue06]

Both US and China would be hurt economically, particularly the sanctions the west would undoubtedly level against China. But, like you said, China has been preparing for that by making alliances with the BRIC countries away from the dollar (it seems the sanctions against Russia sped this process up). Also, most notably, China is our second biggest foreign creditor with hundreds of billions of our treasuries, which is equivalent to a financial nuclear bomb, particularly given the situation we're presently in. IOW, in an currency war, China will soundly win in the end.

And they don't care what sort of hardships are inflicted on their people. I mean the Chicoms butchered nearly a hundred million during their Great Leap Forward and Cultural Revolution, so they would just plow through it.

[Mountain Man]

And they don't care what sort of hardships are inflicted on their people. I mean the Chicoms butchered nearly a hundred million during their Great Leap Forward and Cultural Revolution, so they would just plow through it.

There's no way we would win an economic war against China under the current administration. President Trump came very close to breaking China's back, but they held out until the election, hoping (or knowing?) that Ten-Percent Joe would be installed.

[seanD]

And they don't care what sort of hardships are inflicted on their people. I mean the Chicoms butchered nearly a hundred million during their Great Leap Forward and Cultural Revolution, so they would just plow through it.

Being a totalitarian regime gives them authoritarian perks that the west doesn't have, like not having to worry about not being elected to office because of economic conditions or quashing civil unrest due to economic conditions. That's why the left here in the west salivated at their handling of the pandemic in 2020, in spite of the fact their lockdown actions were brutal (interestingly, that sentiment seemed to change in 2022 for some odd reason).

[One Bad Pig]

Being a totalitarian regime gives them authoritarian perks that the west doesn't have, like not having to worry about not being elected to office because of economic conditions or quashing civil unrest due to economic conditions. That's why the left here in the west salivated at their handling of the pandemic in 2020, in spite of the fact their lockdown actions were brutal (interestingly, that sentiment seemed to change in 2022 for some odd reason).

According to Chinese mythology, humans are lice on the body of the earth god. Do not be surprised when they continue to treat humans like lice.

[rogue06]

Being a totalitarian regime gives them authoritarian perks that the west doesn't have, like not having to worry about not being elected to office because of economic conditions or quashing civil unrest due to economic conditions. That's why the left here in the west salivated at their handling of the pandemic in 2020, in spite of the fact their lockdown actions were brutal (interestingly, that sentiment seemed to change in 2022 for some odd reason).

Remember what Justin Trudeau said early on when asked about which government he admires:

There is a level of admiration I actually have for China because their basic dictatorship is allowing them to actually turn their economy around on a dime and say we need to go green, we need to start, you know, investing in solar,”

[...]

“There is a flexibility that I know [Prime Minister] Stephen Harper must dream about: having a dictatorship where you can do whatever you wanted, that I find quite interesting.”

Given his actions over the past year or so, Canadians should have believed him.