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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
Either the chemo would have killed him, or the cancer they were treating would have.
A friend of mine survived colon cancer after chemo. He said chemo felt like death, and he almost refused it after a certain point.
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Originally posted by Ronson View Post
I've heard that there is one variety of prostate cancer that is very slow-growing, and physicians often recommend just letting it go without treatment for men over a certain age. The reasoning is that treating such a cancer for a man of, say, 80-85 would be causing more risk and harm than to just leave it. Odds are he will die from something else before the cancer.
A friend of mine survived colon cancer after chemo. He said chemo felt like death, and he almost refused it after a certain point.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Ronson View Post
I've heard that there is one variety of prostate cancer that is very slow-growing, and physicians often recommend just letting it go without treatment for men over a certain age. The reasoning is that treating such a cancer for a man of, say, 80-85 would be causing more risk and harm than to just leave it. Odds are he will die from something else before the cancer.
A friend of mine survived colon cancer after chemo. He said chemo felt like death, and he almost refused it after a certain point.
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And just a reminder for those who reflexively regurgitate the Trump is Putin's stooge B.S.:
Originally posted by rogue06 View PostBack in 2018 Trump griped that he had been much tougher on Putin than Obama ever was only for the MSM to mock that.
CNN proclaimed "That's not true!" while WaPo declared that "the facts suggest otherwise" and the supposed "fact checkers" at Politifact issued a "Mostly false" judgment sneering that the claim "immediately drew guffaws among media commentators."
They wanted you to look at only what he said and ignore what he did.
Anyone who has watched Trump or read The Art of the Deal understands he has two basic modes of conducting business. First he either berates you publicly that shocks you with how willing he is to work with you when you are in private. Case in point, "Rocketman" Kim Jong-un of South Korea. The other is playing nice in public while in private he is trying to rip your lungs out. Case in point, Vladimir Putin.
Of course folks who still think that the Collusion Delusion was anything but the hoax it has been exposed as being (but hey some people also think that the earth is flat, so what are you going to do?) want everyone to focus solely on Trump's public treatment of Putin -- what he says -- rather than what he actually has done. The last thing these folks want is for people to look behind the curtain they put up.
The facts that WaPo had claimed "suggest otherwise" in fact do not support that paper's contention, and now with Trump safely out of office, a few of those who kept saying that Trump was soft on Putin -- if not a Russian asset, traitor or Putin's puppet -- have decided it is okay to stop lying and finally tell the truth.
For instance, on CNN's New Day back on New Year's morning, Fareed Zakaria was asked how Biden's policies toward Russia would differ from Trump's, and Zakiria let the cat out of the bag when he said "the dirty little secret" regarding Trump and the Russians was that
" the Trump administration was pretty tough on the Russians. They armed Ukraine. They armed the Poles. They extended NATO operations and exercises in ways that even the Obama administration had not done. They maintained the sanctions."
Oops. That certainly went against the narrative now didn't it?
Aside from why would that be considered a "dirty little secret" the facts showing that this was the case that the WaPo dismissively claimed "suggest otherwise" were plain to see even if the MSM refused to cover them like they did the Hunter laptop story.
So, in reality, it was hardly a secret for anyone who actually bothered to check the record rather mindlessly regurgitating what the MSM spoon fed them.
Moreover, it isn't just Zakaria who has admitted this -- once Trump was safely out of office. Trump deployed such aggressive sanctions against Russia that even Obama’s Secretary of Defense, Robert Gates, who has never passed up an opportunity to trash Trump, said that it's "true" that Trump's treatment of Russia was harsher than that of previous presidents.[1]
That's what happens when you pay attention to what someone actually does rather than to just what they say. As the old adage puts it "Action Speaks Louder Than Words"
And just what exactly was it that Trump did? Here's a short list:- accused Russia of deploying land-based cruise missiles saying that they violated the "spirit and intent" of the 1987 Intermediate-range Nuclear Forces (INF) treaty -- something Obama refused to do.
- bombed Syria's Shayrat Airbase (Russia's allies) when they use chemical weapons in 2017.
- again bombed Syrian forces in 2018 killing over 200 Russian "mercenaries".
- tried to get Merkel to stop importing natural gas from Russia which would deal a serious blow to the Russian economy.
- sent weapons, including a bunch of anti-tank missiles, and not just blankets and well-wishes to Ukraine so they can fight the Russians.
- facilitated the sale of more coal to energy-strapped Ukraine
- sent Patriot missiles to Poland which had begging for them for years.
- shifted a couple thousand U.S. troops from bases in Western Europe to Poland, which while largely symbolic, infuriated the Russians just like selling them the anti-missile defense systems did.
- like with Poland, Trump supplied the Baltic States of Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania with arms and training along with money to help them prevent Russian cyber attacks, again pissing off the Russians who think of those countries as theirs.
- imposed stricter sanctions[2] than those initially called for by Congress including imposing sanctions on Ramzan Kadyrov, a close Putin ally.
- ordered the expulsion of 60 Russian diplomats and closure of Russian consulate in Seattle in response to Russia's poisoning of Sergei and Yulia Skripal (Russian foreign minister Sergei Lavrov declared that the expulsion of the total of 153 Russian diplomats by 28 countries was the result of the Trump Administration "blackmailing" other nations).
- sanctioned four Russian entities and seven individuals in response to their attempt to interfere in U.S. midterm elections, including Russian financier Yevgeniy Prigozhin, known as "Putin's chef" because he has his hands in so many pies
- approved sanctions placed on builders of the Nord Stream 2 Russia-to-Germany gas pipelines.[3]
There is also a Brookings Institute analysis of the Trump Administration's record with Russia published in December 2019 found it had taken 52 actions against the Russians, both severe and minor, but try and tell that to the cognitively challenged TDS crowd.
And while written by a couple of Trump's former senior intelligence officials (hence has a dog in the fight), here's a piece from a few weeks back regarding what Trump was doing to Putin and why the latter didn't invade Ukraine under Trump when he invaded countries while Bush, Obama and now old Joe was/is president: Fear Of Donald Trump Kept Putin From Invading Ukraine. Here’s How Trump Pulled It Off They also cover some of the actions Trump took regarding Putin and Russia.
All of this was in sharp contrast to what took place after that comical "Great Reset" under Obama which appears to have been a plan to bribe Putin into behaving in a civilized manner (while simultaneously enriching the Biden and Clinton clans), until their sharp pivot toward Ukraine.
1. as an aside Gates thinks that old Joe has been wrong about everything his entire political career -- an assessment he is far from being alone in making.
2. to be fair this has been a bit of a mixed bag in that earlier Trump expressed reluctance about enforcing some sanctions that he had signed into law. But in the end his placing harsher economic restrictions on Russian oligarchs (more than just Skripal) close to Putin hurt the latter enormously. Putin is thought to have illegally amassed tens of billions of dollars, but he can't hold all that wealth in his own name, so he appointed his oligarch cronies to be his trustees. Sanctioning his buddies was effectively putting sanctions on Putin himself
3. Old Joe removed those sanctions which was a blessing to Putin and the Russian economy while shutting down the Keystone pipeline here, that, along with a few similar moves, turned us from finally becoming energy independent after decades of not being so, into being energy dependent again. In only 6 months the demented duffer was begging OPEC and Putin to increase their production in order to meet our demand
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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I don't think it was so much Joe's "predictability" that compelled Putin but, rather, his repeated displays of political weakness and mental impairment. After Joe and Putin's first meeting, Putin openly mocked him in front of the press, saying that he was confused by the jet lag.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostI don't think it was so much Joe's "predictability" that compelled Putin but, rather, his repeated displays of political weakness and mental impairment. After Joe and Putin's first meeting, Putin openly mocked him in front of the press, saying that he was confused by the jet lag.
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Take a good look at Putin's face. This was the moment he knew he had 4 years
to do pretty much whatever he wanted to do and there was nothing to stop him
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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(June 2021)
“The image of President Biden portrayed by our and even by the American media has nothing to do with the reality,” Putin claimed. “He is on a long trip, he flew from overseas, having the so-called jet lag, the change of the time zones.”
Putin insisted that Biden was “fully in the know” of his surroundings and a “professional.”
The Russian strongman then attributed any confusion, lack of knowledge, or insufficient attention paid to important details not to any specific qualities that Biden may possess, but on the fact that he is an American, and Americans are too self-centered to bother with details on international issues. He used as his example Psaki, who he accused of often making incorrect statements.
“His press secretary is a young, educated and pretty woman. She is mixing things up all the time,” Putin said. “This is not because she is not enough educated or has a bad memory. Simply, you know when people think that some things are secondary, they don’t really fix their attention on this.”
Putin Defends Biden Gaffes: Jen Psaki ‘Young, Pretty,’ and ‘Mixing Things Up All the Time’ (breitbart.com)
Putin had this administration pegged from day one.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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It's not so much that Trump would have stopped Putin, or even if Obama would have, but knowing that Biden wouldn't.
I don't know what Trump would have done if the invasion happened during his watch - but that's the key; ambiguity. The same goes for the US Taiwan policy being debated now. Trump was loud, forceful, boorish - someone that conveys conviction and strength. If you don't know how such a person would react to being poked, you probably wouldn't poke him. But with Biden, you pretty much know he's going to roll over. Or wander out the door in a mental daze.
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Originally posted by Ronson View PostIt's not so much that Trump would have stopped Putin, or even if Obama would have, but knowing that Biden wouldn't.
I don't know what Trump would have done if the invasion happened during his watch - but that's the key; ambiguity. The same goes for the US Taiwan policy being debated now. Trump was loud, forceful, boorish - someone that conveys conviction and strength. If you don't know how such a person would react to being poked, you probably wouldn't poke him. But with Biden, you pretty much know he's going to roll over. Or wander out the door in a mental daze.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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The US media is finally starting to wake up to the reality of the Russia/Ukraine conflict.
The Associated Press [HERE] and more importantly the U.S. Intel Community outlet, the Washington Post [HERE], are beginning to change direction in their narration of the war in Ukraine.
Both sources of information are starting to position Eastern Ukraine as a lost cause, with the Washington Post giving specific examples of conscripted Ukraine fighters who are abandoning the effort in the donbas region. As noted, “after three months of war, this company of 120 men is down to 54 because of deaths, injuries and desertions. The volunteers were civilians before Russia invaded on Feb. 24, and they never expected to be dispatched to one of the most dangerous front lines in eastern Ukraine.”
The Ukraine commander, Serhi Lapko and one of his lieutenants, Vitaliy Khrus, “retreated with members of their company this week to a hotel away from the front. There, both men spoke to The Washington Post on the record, knowing they could face a court-martial and time in military prison.” Together, Lapko and Khrus describe the essential elements of a fragmented Ukraine fighting force up against a committed Russian military advance.
Even the Washington Post admits the Ukraine central government is desperate to push morale boosting propaganda which seems constructed from the efforts of the U.S. State Dept, specifically the intelligence community within it. “Videos of assaults on Russian tanks or positions are posted daily on social media. Artists are creating patriotic posters, billboards and T-shirts. The postal service even released stamps commemorating the sinking of a Russian warship in the Black Sea.”
These examples are targeted toward a western audience and likely not being carried out by independent Ukraine government operation in Kyiv. Promoting the image of Ukraine is a construct of the U.S. state dept and U.S. intelligence.
The global impression of Ukraine must remain elevated to continue the U.S. proxy war against Russia. However, as noted, the WaPo is starting to shift the goal posts and expectations away from a Russian defeat in the donbas region.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com...donbas-region/
Of course they waited until after Zelinsky got his grubby little hands on 40 billion tax payer dollars before shifting the narrative.Last edited by Mountain Man; 05-30-2022, 01:45 PM.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostAnd never forget, like Afghanistan, pro-level FUBARed but he still grins like a fool and declares it an "outstanding success."1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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Originally posted by tabibito View Post
Afghanistan might have been a success - it would depend on what the administration's actual goals were.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by tabibito View Post
Afghanistan might have been a success - it would depend on what the administration's actual goals were.
The goal is to use Afghanistan to wash money out of the tax bases of the US and Europe through Afghanistan and back into the hands of a transnational security elite. The goal is an endless war, not a successful war
So, obviously, it was NOT a success based on the reasons we were told for being there and spending all that money -- i.e. defeat Taliban, rebuild a democratic political system, maintain stability -- but it was a HUGE success as a tax payer heist between government and defense contractors.
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Originally posted by seanD View Post
I like Assange's explanation:
That was bit specific, though I definitely believe it was a tax heist between government and defense contractors. There's really no reason for me not think that since there's no real adequate explanation why a cost of $8 trillion over a 20 year occupation actually happened. Then when you consider the fact that the Taliban retook the country in day after we pulled out just underscores that explanation even more.
So, obviously, it was NOT a success based on the reasons we were told for being there and spending all that money -- i.e. defeat Taliban, rebuild a democratic political system, maintain stability -- but it was a HUGE success as a tax payer heist between government and defense contractors.1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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