It looks like this Ukraine thing is going to kick off. Now you may say that it won't turn into a World war, but these things often take on a life of their own - especially if American citizens are killed in the initial attack, and the fact that we have a befuddled and senile leader... As Obama said - never underestimate Joe's ability to screw things up...
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Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s -
I still think there will be some alternate solution. Like, Ukraine will drop all claims to Crimea - in writing. Or agree to a vote in east Ukraine about joining Russia (they do have a majority in spots) so some already occupied areas will switch over.
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Originally posted by seer View PostIt looks like this Ukraine thing is going to kick off. Now you may say that it won't turn into a World war, but these things often take on a life of their own - especially if American citizens are killed in the initial attack, and the fact that we have a befuddled and senile leader... As Obama said - never underestimate Joe's ability to screw things up...
As to American citizens, I think the other day Psaki made it pretty clear they're not going to help them out, so I'm not sure how that would go.
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
As to American citizens, I think the other day Psaki made it pretty clear they're not going to help them out, so I'm not sure how that would go.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View Post
Scum bags....
I've got a friend who is the CFO for a company that has half their employees in Ukraine (the rest in the US and the UK). They're all ether natives or from Belarus though. They've called off a planned meeting, and are setting up contingency plans for if anything goes off.
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
Yep. Found the clip:
I've got a friend who is the CFO for a company that has half their employees in Ukraine (the rest in the US and the UK). They're all ether natives or from Belarus though. They've called off a planned meeting, and are setting up contingency plans for if anything goes off.
Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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And Xi will meeting with his generals to prepare to invade Taiwan.
I'm always still in trouble again
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Nutsy Pelosi is claiming that if Russia doesn't invade Ukraine, it's because Putin is scared of Joe, despite the fact that there was never any evidence that Russia was planning to invade Ukraine.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostNutsy Pelosi is claiming that if Russia doesn't invade Ukraine, it's because Putin is scared of Joe, despite the fact that there was never any evidence that Russia was planning to invade Ukraine.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com...-biden-policy/Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostNutsy Pelosi is claiming that if Russia doesn't invade Ukraine, it's because Putin is scared of Joe, despite the fact that there was never any evidence that Russia was planning to invade Ukraine.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com...-biden-policy/
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostRussia would love nothing more than to get what it wants without the expense of an invasion.
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Originally posted by Ronson View PostAgreed. It keeps boiling down to Cirmea, over and over again. Western hawks keep making it about Russian expansionism that must be checked before Russkies are sipping tea in Paris.
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"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Ronson View Post
Agreed. It keeps boiling down to Cirmea, over and over again. Western hawks keep making it about Russian expansionism that must be checked before Russkies are sipping tea in Paris.
Of course in an ideal world Russia would join the EU and NATO.
However, that is very unlikely to occur [at least in the foreseeable future] for various reasons."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostIt isn't as if the Russians haven't rattled their sabers toward the Baltic states as well though, and now that Russia has quietly all but absorbed Belarus, they're even more nervous.
Secondly, and more importantly in this case, is Crimea. Putin said it himself:
"Let’s imagine that Ukraine is a NATO member, it is fully packed of weapons, it gets advanced attack means like those in Poland and Romania and it starts an operation in Crimea. Let’s imagine that Ukraine is a NATO member state and it initiates a military operation. What should we do then, fight against the NATO bloc? Did anyone think at least something about that? Apparently not.”
Russia's navy is housed in Crimea, and it has been for something like a hundred years. As far as warm-water ports, they don't have many options. It was no biggie during the Soviet Union because Ukraine was connected, but now it's not. And Biden and John Kerry spent a lot of time in Kiev schmoozing Ukraine toward the West. Russia's actions seem predictable.
IMO, it all boils down to Crimea.
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I think everyone is overlooking that China is enabling Putin to do this.
Their goals:- Test case for when they make demands on/invade Taiwan
- Keep eyes on Europe and off Asia
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