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NYT Video: Liberal Hypocrisy is Fueling American Inequality

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  • #31
    Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
    As the video pointed out some benefits have accrued.


    It simply pointed out aspects of human nature.
    Minor. The big things they claim to stand for? Those don't get done.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

      Minor. The big things they claim to stand for? Those don't get done.
      NIMBYism.

      "It ain't necessarily so
      The things that you're liable
      To read in the Bible
      It ain't necessarily so
      ."

      Sportin' Life
      Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

        NIMBYism.
        Lies and hypocrisy. Can you admit that?

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        • #34
          Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

          Lies and hypocrisy. Can you admit that?
          Human nature is no different among many Democrat voters than it is among any other individuals.
          "It ain't necessarily so
          The things that you're liable
          To read in the Bible
          It ain't necessarily so
          ."

          Sportin' Life
          Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

            Human nature is no different among many Democrat voters than it is among any other individuals.
            Lies and hypocrisy. Can you admit that?

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            • #36
              Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

              Lies and hypocrisy. Can you admit that?
              No more so than many other human beings.
              "It ain't necessarily so
              The things that you're liable
              To read in the Bible
              It ain't necessarily so
              ."

              Sportin' Life
              Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

                No more so than many other human beings.
                Nimbyism might explain the housing. But not the nations most regressive taxation, nor the unequal school funding.

                Care to try agian?

                Can you admit that it is lies and hypocrisy?

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

                  Also when you've got a Democrat senator blocking a Bill. Joe Manchin does not strike me as overly liberal in his politics.

                  The Democrat Party in the USA is not a democratic socialist party, despite the fact that it has some social democrats in its ranks.

                  A close parallel in another Anglophone country would be what the Brits used to call "wet" Conservatives i.e. those in the Conservative Party that leaned very slightly towards some more liberal policies.
                  The result of having effectively a two party system. Not everyone fits very well into the severely limited choices.

                  Yet it is ironic that when asked what is the difference between Socialism and the Democrats, the head of the DNC drew a blank. Then she was asked a second time a few days later (providing her more than enough time to come up with a reply) and the same thing happened. Finally, a week or so later a reporter asked Hillary. Guess what. She could not give an answer either.

                  Maybe there is a reason that a few years back that CPUSA (Communist Party USA) stopped running candidates for president and just started endorsing the Democrat candidate.

                  I'm always still in trouble again

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

                    Also when you've got a Democrat senator blocking a Bill. Joe Manchin does not strike me as overly liberal in his politics.

                    The Democrat Party in the USA is not a democratic socialist party, despite the fact that it has some social democrats in its ranks.

                    A close parallel in another Anglophone country would be what the Brits used to call "wet" Conservatives i.e. those in the Conservative Party that leaned very slightly towards some more liberal policies.
                    "Anglophone".

                    The things one learns on Tweb.
                    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

                      Nimbyism might explain the housing. But not the nations most regressive taxation, nor the unequal school funding.

                      Care to try agian?

                      Can you admit that it is lies and hypocrisy?
                      I suspect it also affects education and taxation.
                      "It ain't necessarily so
                      The things that you're liable
                      To read in the Bible
                      It ain't necessarily so
                      ."

                      Sportin' Life
                      Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

                        I suspect it also affects education and taxation.
                        The ruling elite can send their children to any school of their choice (and do) yet they often adamantly refuse to allow "school choice".
                        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                          The ruling elite can send their children to any school of their choice (and do) yet they often adamantly refuse to allow "school choice".
                          Those with money can also send their children abroad to be educated if they so wish.


                          Ideas and polices that are preconceived and/or do not immediately impinge are often endorsed. However, when personal prejudices or material concerns are involved, attitudes often change.

                          The same behaviour has been found with other issues e.g. animal welfare. Interview customers outside a supermarket and many will express concerns about how animals are bred, reared, and slaughtered.

                          However, once inside and they see "cheap meat" that concern very often disappears
                          "It ain't necessarily so
                          The things that you're liable
                          To read in the Bible
                          It ain't necessarily so
                          ."

                          Sportin' Life
                          Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
                            Those with money can also send their children abroad to be educated if they so wish.
                            I don't think you're getting it. The liberals are beholden to the Teachers Unions, so they will do everything they can to fight "school choice" --- while exercising their ability (because of their wealth) to send their own kids to private schools.
                            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                              I don't think you're getting it. The liberals are beholden to the Teachers Unions, so they will do everything they can to fight "school choice" --- while exercising their ability (because of their wealth) to send their own kids to private schools.
                              Not "the liberals" - some liberals. You really need to stop making these over-generalised remarks. They only serve to demonstrate your own prejudices. Furthermore as the video link in the OP showed the inequality of funding sees wealthier areas more get more funding for their schools, so it is not solely about private education but about better funded state education as well.
                              "It ain't necessarily so
                              The things that you're liable
                              To read in the Bible
                              It ain't necessarily so
                              ."

                              Sportin' Life
                              Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
                                Not "the liberals" - some liberals.
                                I'll stick with "the liberals" - it's part and parcel of being a liberal to support unions. Exceptions may be those who are waking up from their fantasy.

                                You really need to stop making these over-generalised remarks.
                                You really need to stop getting the vapors and being so dadgum petty.

                                They only serve to demonstrate your own prejudices. Furthermore as the video link in the OP showed the inequality of funding sees wealthier areas more get more funding for their schools, so it is not solely about private education but about better funded state education as well.
                                No - it's well known that the Teachers Unions - by VAST margins - support Democrats, and the Democrats are beholden to Teachers Unions in an incredibly incestual relationship.

                                Please don't try to lecture me about things about which you know precious little.

                                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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