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  • The men getting vasectomies to save the world!

    An recent interesting article in the Guardian about the number of young men who are getting vasectomies for the good of the planet.

    https://www.theguardian.com/environm...andable-choice
    Nick Demediuk, an Australian GP and one of the world’s most prolific vasectomy clinicians, says most of his patients are fathers over the age of 35. But the doctor, who has completed more than 40,000 procedures since 1981, now estimates that about 200 of the 4,000 patients his clinic sees each year are younger men without kids. About 130 of them say they are doing it for the planet.


    I can see their point given the impact that climate change is going to have on this planet and societies. I think the same thing despite having three adult sons.

    Matthew Schneider-Mayerson, an associate professor of environmental studies at Yale-NUS College in Singapore, is the author of a forthcoming book about “eco-reproductive” choice. Last year, he carried out a detailed survey of 600 people aged 27 to 45 who were worried about the climate crisis. Of these, 96% worried that their children would struggle to thrive in or even survive the worst-case climate scenarios, while 60% were concerned about the carbon footprint of their potential offspring.


    Of course there is always adoption as well so couples do not have to be childless.

    Vasectomies don’t necessarily preclude parenting. Rodney Pohl, 26, an IT technician, is planning to foster or adopt with his wife, Carrie, who watched Pohl’s vasectomy at the SimpleVas clinic near their home in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, last June. The couple were motivated partly by weather extremes and what they foretold. A recent polar vortex had taken out the power on their street for 10 days. “We had neighbours breastfeeding small infants and we were sharing generators to try to keep their fridge going, to not waste [expressed] milk,” Pohl says.

    In Essex, Williamson, who is not in a long-term relationship, says he may also adopt one day. “There are more than enough children and young adults already out there who could have a loving home and family – it doesn’t have to be your own blood,” he says. Neither he nor Miller expect to regret their vasectomies. Pohl says he very occasionally feels pangs of broodiness. “But I quickly move on,” he says.


    The article also refers to an American film maker called Jonathan Stack who has co-founded World Vasectomy Day to address myths and stigmas about modern vasectomies and to promote it as a form of birth control.

    I found the WVD site and there is an interesting 3 minute video showing Dr Esgar Guarin and his mobile vasectomy unit.https://wvd.org/the-us-vasectomy-tour/follow-the-story/

    Has anyone here ever seen or heard of this peripatetic family planning unit which strikes me as a very good way of spreading the message as well as giving men the opportunity to have the operation.

    As Guarin notes in the video when people are faced with something they had neither encountered nor considered before it tends to generates a conversation.




    "It ain't necessarily so
    The things that you're liable
    To read in the Bible
    It ain't necessarily so
    ."

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    They can do that, but in many of the more cosmopolitan countries, like japan, are already dealing with low birth rates. Europe, USA, Japan, and other countries now have birth-rates below the replacement rate of 2.1.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
      An recent interesting article in the Guardian about the number of young men who are getting vasectomies for the good of the planet.
      I hope they are all leftist males...
      Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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      • #4
        For anyone that stupid it might just be a good thing that they took themselves out of the gene pool.

        I'm always still in trouble again

        "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
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        • #5
          The gospel of despair seems to be having a profound effect.

          Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
          They can do that, but in many of the more cosmopolitan countries, like japan, are already dealing with low birth rates. Europe, USA, Japan, and other countries now have birth-rates below the replacement rate of 2.1.
          Australia is at 1.6 or so, but the effects are masked by immigration.
          1Cor 15:34 εκνηψατε δικαιως και μη αμαρτανετε αγνωσιαν γαρ θεου τινες εχουσιν προς εντροπην υμιν λεγω
          "It's bigger inside" might work for a TARDIS - it doesn't work for a bronze sea.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
            For anyone that stupid it might just be a good thing that they took themselves out of the gene pool.
            It may be more about the ability to have sex without responsibility.
            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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            • #7
              Another thread by H_A that nobody really disagrees with. I wonder how she will derail it to start a fight?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                For anyone that stupid it might just be a good thing that they took themselves out of the gene pool.
                Why is it stupid to have a vasectomy because of concerns about over-population and the impact of climate change?
                "It ain't necessarily so
                The things that you're liable
                To read in the Bible
                It ain't necessarily so
                ."

                Sportin' Life
                Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                  Another thread by H_A that nobody really disagrees with. I wonder how she will derail it to start a fight?
                  I wonder how rogue06 will explain his remark. He seems to consider it stupid.
                  "It ain't necessarily so
                  The things that you're liable
                  To read in the Bible
                  It ain't necessarily so
                  ."

                  Sportin' Life
                  Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by tabibito View Post
                    The gospel of despair seems to be having a profound effect.
                    Are you surprised?

                    "It ain't necessarily so
                    The things that you're liable
                    To read in the Bible
                    It ain't necessarily so
                    ."

                    Sportin' Life
                    Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

                      Why is it stupid to have a vasectomy because of concerns about over-population and the impact of climate change?
                      Right, because we hate lids, kids are the problem. Don't have them, abort them, infanticide is the next logical step...
                      Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
                        They can do that, but in many of the more cosmopolitan countries, like japan, are already dealing with low birth rates. Europe, USA, Japan, and other countries now have birth-rates below the replacement rate of 2.1.
                        For the planet and anthropogenic impacts on it that might be a very good thing.
                        "It ain't necessarily so
                        The things that you're liable
                        To read in the Bible
                        It ain't necessarily so
                        ."

                        Sportin' Life
                        Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by seer View Post

                          Right, because we hate lids, kids are the problem. Don't have them, abort them, infanticide is the next logical step...
                          Vasectomies have nothing to do with abortion or infanticide. Men often have one after they have produced a family. However, for these young men they consider it better not to bring more humans into the world.

                          I think you also need to consider what the world might be like in 70 years or so.
                          "It ain't necessarily so
                          The things that you're liable
                          To read in the Bible
                          It ain't necessarily so
                          ."

                          Sportin' Life
                          Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

                            Vasectomies have nothing to do with abortion or infanticide. Men often have one after they have produced a family. However, for these young men they consider it better not to bring more humans into the world.

                            I think you also need to consider what the world might be like in 70 years or so.
                            It is still about not having children, it still makes children the problem. Even the Pope decried this nonsense. It is anti-human. 70 years from now? Same old same old, with more people...
                            Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

                              Why is it stupid to have a vasectomy because of concerns about over-population and the impact of climate change?
                              Actually, I think it's a brilliant idea, and ALL liberals should proceed.
                              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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