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Last edited by Gondwanaland; 01-23-2022, 08:38 AM.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
You may perceive it as hate, Jim, because of your incredible anger issues, but I see Fauci as a political hack gaming the system. I don't hate him at all.
Yes, you have, because you're going by your own incredibly biased perceptions.
If I turned every thread into a "hate Fauci" thread like you do Trump, and if I allowed my "blood to boil" over these things like you do, then MAYBE, but, no.
Yup -- it's all them OTHER people who hate, and you're a calm and reasoned fellow.
Not buying it, Jim. I think Fauci is a stooge and a political hack. I don't hate him. I sure don't like him, but he'd have to do a whole lot more to "get my blood boiling".
You're wrong, Jim.
To avoid being part of the hatred that is so often a part of the debate that happens here, a person must pull back from the temptation to try to put the other fellow in their place, to try to show others how awful that person is, or to create long lists of reasons why they dislike, loathe, or otherwise despise the person they are disagreeing with.
That is not a trivial task, and I wish you only the best in accomplishing the goal of debating ideas you disagree with here without stumbling into hate.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post.
To avoid being part of the hatred that is so often a part of the debate that happens here, a person must pull back from the temptation to try to put the other fellow in their place, to try to show others how awful that person is, or to create long lists of reasons why they dislike, loathe, or otherwise despise the person they are disagreeing with.
That is not a trivial task, and I wish you only the best in accomplishing the goal of debating ideas you disagree with here without stumbling into hate.
Except HA. The two of you should start a debate thread. It would be quite entertaining.
You can never see yourself in the mirror you hold up, can you.
Securely anchored to the Rock amid every storm of trial, testing or tribulation.
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post.
To avoid being part of the hatred that is so often a part of the debate that happens here, a person must pull back from the temptation to try to put the other fellow in their place, to try to show others how awful that person is, or to create long lists of reasons why they dislike, loathe, or otherwise despise the person they are disagreeing with.
(Your latest screed in this thread accusing others of hate is just the most recent example.)Last edited by Mountain Man; 01-23-2022, 10:09 AM.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by MaxVel View PostWe'll skip over your own history of smears and insults when people question your pet positions
Two big assumptions there:
(1) that anyone you're addressing actually hates Fauci, as opposed to thinking he's wrong, dangerous or incompetent
(2) that any supposed hatred of Fauci is unjustified. If what some here believe is true, then hatred is a pretty mild response, frankly.
But what about if they say things like, "He's a narcissistic, egomaniacal, demonic little sociopath." In that case, would it be fair to assume that they hate Fauci?
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Originally posted by Stoic View Post
So it seems like the takeaway here is that if what some here believe is true, they would be fully justified in hating Fauci. But it would still be wrong to assume that they hate Fauci.
But what about if they say things like, "He's a narcissistic, egomaniacal, demonic little sociopath." In that case, would it be fair to assume that they hate Fauci?
I don't hate Trump but I'll readily say he is an egotistical nepotistic narcissistic twit. Don't have to hate fauci to call out what he is and how he behaves.....
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Originally posted by Stoic View Post
So it seems like the takeaway here is that if what some here believe is true, they would be fully justified in hating Fauci. But it would still be wrong to assume that they hate Fauci.
But what about if they say things like, "He's a narcissistic, egomaniacal, demonic little sociopath." In that case, would it be fair to assume that they hate Fauci?Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostTo avoid being part of the hatred....
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post(1) I have given a definition of hate. The definition is met. We have loathing, extreme dislike, and a huge amount of ill will expressed directly AT THE MAN.
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Stoic View PostSo it seems like the takeaway here is that if what some here believe is true, they would be fully justified in hating Fauci....
He's not that much different than a lot of other political hacks - on BOTH sides of the aisle.
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View PostMet wrt your posts and obsession with Trump, sure. Otherwise, no.
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
A temptation you readily succumb to time and time and time again, all while giving airs that you're above that sort of behavior.
(Your latest screed in this thread accusing others of hate is just the most recent example.)
The issue here is that hate, by its definition and as evidenced by action and word, is a major part of the discussion of Fauci here and in conservative media in general. The second issue is that the haters think that just because they are Christians they can't possibly be hating, despite the clear evidence found in their posts.
We often say love is not defined by how you feel, but by what you do. I am saying hatred is defined the same way. And the character and words in the posts that meet that definition od hatred speak far louder than any claims after the fact to the contrary.My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1
If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26
This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post
The interesting thing here is that any admission of the universal human struggle with sin on my part is immediately pounced upon is proof I am evil, as if those making the assessment do not likewise struggle.
The issue here is that hate, by its definition and as evidenced by action and word, is a major part of the discussion of Fauci here and in conservative media in general. The second issue is that the haters think that just because they are Christians they can't possibly be hating, despite the clear evidence found in their posts.
We often say love is not defined by how you feel, but by what you do. I am saying hatred is defined the same way. And the character and words in the posts that meet that definition od hatred speak far louder than any claims after the fact to the contrary.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
I don't know why it's so hard to comprehend that you can think somebody is a political hack out for his own advancement without that turning into hate.
He's not that much different than a lot of other political hacks - on BOTH sides of the aisle.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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