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Who are the top INVESTIGATIVE Journalists in the MSM

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  • Who are the top INVESTIGATIVE Journalists in the MSM

    I mean, like "hard hitting news" -- just the facts regardless of where they lead.

    Who, in the MSM particularly, does REAL "investigative reporting" where they drill down to the actual facts of the case, and leave out opinion, reporting the facts regardless of who or what it impacts?
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    John Stossel has done some. Last I heard he works for Fox.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
      I mean, like "hard hitting news" -- just the facts regardless of where they lead.

      Who, in the MSM particularly, does REAL "investigative reporting" where they drill down to the actual facts of the case, and leave out opinion, reporting the facts regardless of who or what it impacts?
      You are asking for what never existed.

      I'm always still in trouble again

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Ronson View Post
        John Stossel has done some. Last I heard he works for Fox.
        Pretty much, yeah - he seemed to "let the chips fall where they may".
        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
          You are asking for what never existed.
          Not 100%, but at least there used to be a PRETENSE of objectivity.
          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

            Not 100%, but at least there used to be a PRETENSE of objectivity.
            Even in the days of Huntley and Brinkley or Walter Conkite it was pretty bad. Just not in your face we don't care bad like it is now.

            I'm always still in trouble again

            "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
            "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
            "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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            • #7
              Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
              Even in the days of Huntley and Brinkley or Walter Conkite it was pretty bad. Just not in your face we don't care bad like it is now.
              OK, so let's go with that --- who, in the MSM, at least gives the APPEARANCE of honest journalism - with no apparent bias?
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • #8
                I'll go with my favorite - the local media. I've a couple investigative reporters that seem to drill down and aren't afraid to ask the pointed questions.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View Post
                  I'll go with my favorite - the local media. I've a couple investigative reporters that seem to drill down and aren't afraid to ask the pointed questions.
                  And Houston's KHOU had a guy that did actual investigative reporting (Olberg?) that seemed to be "I don't care who this affects, it's the truth".

                  Maybe you hit on something --- the more "national" the "news" gets, the more beholden it is to the sponsors of that network, or the opinions or biases of the networks themselves!
                  The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                    And Houston's KHOU had a guy that did actual investigative reporting (Olberg?) that seemed to be "I don't care who this affects, it's the truth".

                    Maybe you hit on something --- the more "national" the "news" gets, the more beholden it is to the sponsors of that network, or the opinions or biases of the networks themselves!
                    I think you're right. Also, they may be more beholden because they want access to the people in power. They may more be more differential to them so they can maintain that access.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View Post

                      I think you're right. Also, they may be more beholden because they want access to the people in power. They may more be more differential to them so they can maintain that access.
                      That explains why they're so differential towards the Republicans the times they are in control.

                      I'm always still in trouble again

                      "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                      "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                      "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                        That explains why they're so differential towards the Republicans the times they are in control.
                        They ARE?

                        (oh, yeah)
                        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View Post
                          I'll go with my favorite - the local media. I've a couple investigative reporters that seem to drill down and aren't afraid to ask the pointed questions.
                          Yep other than John Stossel (and maybe Glenn Greenwald though he's not really with any MSM anymore), I can only think of local reporters in my area.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                            I mean, like "hard hitting news" -- just the facts regardless of where they lead.

                            Who, in the MSM particularly, does REAL "investigative reporting" where they drill down to the actual facts of the case, and leave out opinion, reporting the facts regardless of who or what it impacts?
                            Is there really such a thing anymore? I doubt it.
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