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  • There may be trouble ahead...

    The top plot shows the number of covid-19 cases identified in the US. The bottom plot shows the number of deaths reported two weeks later.
    They correlate very closely.*

    covid_correlation.png
    I sincerely hope that the omicron variant, which seems to be the cause of the massive spike in new cases, is nowhere near as lethal as the preceding variants.



    *apart from the far left end, when covid identification was still in its infancy.
    Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.

    mikewhitney: What if the speed of light changed when light is passing through water? ... I have 3 semesters of college Physics.

    Mountain Man: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
    Mountain Man on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.

    Sparko: Even the deists like Jefferson believed in the Christian God, ...

  • #2
    And?

    Many say it's like a cold.

    I know both vaccinated and unvaccinated who had it over Christmas. Same symptoms for both, same time to recover.

    I think the trouble ahead is a ginormous red wave tsunami.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Roy View Post
      The top plot shows the number of covid-19 cases identified in the US. The bottom plot shows the number of deaths reported two weeks later.
      They correlate very closely.*

      covid_correlation.png
      I sincerely hope that the omicron variant, which seems to be the cause of the massive spike in new cases, is nowhere near as lethal as the preceding variants.



      *apart from the far left end, when covid identification was still in its infancy.
      So far from what I read there has been only one report indicating that it's lethality is anywhere near that of the Delta or earlier variants. All the others put it at somewhere around a bad cold to the flu (note that tens of thousands of Americans die every year because of the flu).

      I'm always still in trouble again

      "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
      "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
      "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Maranatha View Post
        And?

        Many say it's like a cold.

        I know both vaccinated and unvaccinated who had it over Christmas. Same symptoms for both, same time to recover.

        I think the trouble ahead is a ginormous red wave tsunami.
        Actually, if fatalities start dropping rapidly as the Omicron spreads (it's rate of contagiousness has been likened to measles), old Joe could get a boost as the MSM will surely try to give him all the credit. It is the only foreseeable way I can see for the Democrats to hold the House and Senate

        I'm always still in trouble again

        "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
        "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
        "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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        • #5
          Yeah! Another Covid thread...can't have too many of those.
          "For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6

          "Theology can be an intellectual entertainment." Metropolitan Anthony Bloom

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          • #6
            Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
            So far from what I read there has been only one report indicating that it's lethality is anywhere near that of the Delta or earlier variants.
            I hope the indications that it is less lethal are right.

            Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.

            mikewhitney: What if the speed of light changed when light is passing through water? ... I have 3 semesters of college Physics.

            Mountain Man: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
            Mountain Man on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.

            Sparko: Even the deists like Jefferson believed in the Christian God, ...

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Roy View Post
              I hope the indications that it is less lethal are right.
              I'll presume that to be the majority view.

              I'm always still in trouble again

              "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
              "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
              "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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              • #8
                Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                Actually, if fatalities start dropping rapidly as the Omicron spreads (it's rate of contagiousness has been likened to measles), old Joe could get a boost as the MSM will surely try to give him all the credit. It is the only foreseeable way I can see for the Democrats to hold the House and Senate
                Well actually actually, it doesn't matter.

                A new fold will be found in the fear porn, and another booster will promise sunshine and lollipops.

                Having no booster will be like making bricks without straw. People will complain, that's about it.

                I say this because it hasn't changed yet in two years, so I'll just assume it will continue.

                The ginormous red tsunami though....we'll see.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                  I'll presume that to be the majority view.
                  Omicron burned itself out in Africa where it was first discovered without causing a single fatality.
                  Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                  But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                  Than a fool in the eyes of God


                  From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                    ....
                    Please leave this thread.



                    Last edited by Roy; 01-06-2022, 11:18 AM.
                    Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.

                    mikewhitney: What if the speed of light changed when light is passing through water? ... I have 3 semesters of college Physics.

                    Mountain Man: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
                    Mountain Man on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.

                    Sparko: Even the deists like Jefferson believed in the Christian God, ...

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                      I'll presume that to be the majority view.
                      It does seem to be the case - reports from South Africa are showing Omicron ICU cases and fatalities are about 25% and 4% compared to previous variants. Unfortunately omicron is also infecting a lot more people, which counteracts that somewhat.

                      According to a BBC report yesterday omicron attaches and breeds higher up the respiratory tract, making it both more easily ejectable and less likely to affect the lungs, explaining both the greater spreadability and the reduction in severity.
                      Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.

                      mikewhitney: What if the speed of light changed when light is passing through water? ... I have 3 semesters of college Physics.

                      Mountain Man: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
                      Mountain Man on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.

                      Sparko: Even the deists like Jefferson believed in the Christian God, ...

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Roy View Post
                        Please leave this thread.


                        Why? His comment was not distracting from the thread.
                        That's what
                        - She

                        Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                        - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                        I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                        Stephen R. Donaldson

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                          Why? His comment was not distracting from the thread.
                          I'd prefer to keep this thread focussed on facts and informed discussion.
                          Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.

                          mikewhitney: What if the speed of light changed when light is passing through water? ... I have 3 semesters of college Physics.

                          Mountain Man: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
                          Mountain Man on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.

                          Sparko: Even the deists like Jefferson believed in the Christian God, ...

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Roy View Post
                            I'd prefer to keep this thread focussed on facts and informed discussion.
                            And when he deviates from that, you'll have cause. As of now, his comment was factual. We don't allow banning people from threads without just cause.
                            That's what
                            - She

                            Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                            - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                            I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                            Stephen R. Donaldson

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                              And when he deviates from that, you'll have cause. As of now, his comment was factual.
                              As best I can tell, his comment is completely unverifiable and probably false. There have been a dozen or so omicron fatalities in the UK in the last fortnight, so omicron is not non-fatal; various reports are estimating that omicron fatalities are about 25% of those of delta rather than 0%; and South Africa doesn't have enough facilities to determine which variant was present in each of the ~600 covid fatalities they had last week.

                              I was hoping not to have to derail into the details of a dubious unsupported and unsupportable claim. I'd rather stop here.
                              Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.

                              mikewhitney: What if the speed of light changed when light is passing through water? ... I have 3 semesters of college Physics.

                              Mountain Man: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
                              Mountain Man on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.

                              Sparko: Even the deists like Jefferson believed in the Christian God, ...

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