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Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
And Christians, and....Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
You don't have a moral foundation, all you have is a preference. Other people have a different preference. That's the end of it. There's nowhere else for this debate to go for the atheist.
Now it is important that we remain clear in understanding the issue before us. The question is not: Must we believe in God in order to live moral lives? There is no reason to think that atheists and theists alike may not live what we normally characterize as good and decent lives. Similarly, the question is not: Can we formulate a system of ethics without reference to God? If the non-theist grants that human beings do have objective value, then there is no reason to think that he cannot work out a system of ethics with which the theist would also largely agree. Or again, the question is not: Can we recognize the existence of objective moral values without reference to God? The theist will typically maintain that a person need not believe in God in order to recognize, say, that we should love our children. Rather, as humanist philosopher Paul Kurtz puts it, “The central question about moral and ethical principles concerns this ontological foundation. If they are neither derived from God nor anchored in some transcendent ground, are they purely ephemeral?”
If there is no God, then any ground for regarding the herd morality evolved by homo sapiens as objectively true seems to have been removed. After all, what is so special about human beings? They are just accidental by-products of nature which have evolved relatively recently on an infinitesimal speck of dust lost somewhere in a hostile and mindless universe and which are doomed to perish individually and collectively in a relatively short time. Some action, say, incest, may not be biologically or socially advantageous and so in the course of human evolution has become taboo; but there is on the atheistic view nothing really wrong about committing incest. If, as Kurtz states, “The moral principles that govern our behavior are rooted in habit and custom, feeling and fashion,” then the non-conformist who chooses to flout the herd morality is doing nothing more serious than acting unfashionably.
https://www.reasonablefaith.org/writ...od-without-god
Now, I Know reasonably they won't because despite their words, they too are just as capable of moral thought, with or without their religious faith. But the way y'all try to hype it up makes it sound previsely like i described.
And if you want to just copypasta, well: https://www.atheistalliance.org/abou...theists-moral/
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
And that's why it helps to read for contextual clues Instead of quotemining.
Er, yes I do. Just as you have ground to pick and choose from your Bible like you do.
My actions are exactly consistent with my beliefs. That you cannot concieve a moral structure outside of what your deity tells you, is your fault, not my own.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
Because you stated what was necessary should such a law of God exist. But reality does not match with your claims, thus no such law of God exists.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View Post
How does the context change what I said?
How does any of that tell us what is moral or not?Last edited by Gondwanaland; 12-01-2021, 01:32 PM.
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
As there is no such law that is "universal and binding on all men", your necessary condition does not exist in reality and therefore you disproved your law of God assertion.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View Post
Of course it is binding.
Because God deems it so. That does not mean that you will necessarily experience that authority in this moment, you will at the Judgement. Or that you will necessarily bow to the or recognize the law of God. We are sinners after all. The color red would exist even if all creatures were color blind.
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
Try reading what I replied to and using yer noggin and stip acting like H_A
If you really believe that then you have no grounds for moral objection, and yet as one of the more conservative posters on this forum who regularly condemns immoral behavior, your actions are not consistent with your stated beliefs.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View PostExcept no such thing is detectable in reality.
gain, nothing of the sort is evident in reality. Thats a nice fantasy, but nothing more than that, bo different than the fantasies of Muslims.
Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
I can lead a horse to water, but if you're too dense to drink there's nothing that can be done.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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