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Originally posted by tabibito View Post
Yes, it is the appropriate response to intractable unreasoning hostility.
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Originally posted by seer View Post
I'm done...
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Originally posted by seer View Post
How does Christ explicitly teach us to treat our fellow man?
Even our enemies? Did the first century followers ever pick up the sword to harm others?
And even in your references Christ never explicitly calls for an attack of anykind.
You keep saying that but you also keep avoiding the question.
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View PostThat's nice, but has no bearing on reality. And an appeal to tradition, especially with something so mired in terror as your Bible, ain't the best look.
No, you just don't like the answer.
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View PostI do know scripture. I just don't agree with your interpretations of it. Nor did many other of your own fellow Christians, for that matter.
And that's what people like you and MM can't stand, and thus resort to this sort of nonsense of 'well you didn't march in lockstep with me so that means you don't know scripture' .
That you don't have a scooby how morality developed.
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Originally posted by seer View Post
It is not special pleading, it is what Scripture teaches... And had taught that long before these debates came up....
So you have no answer...
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Originally posted by seer View Post
I think you are being dishonest now.
And if you know scripture as well as you claimed you know that you are taking these out of context of the general teachings of Christ and the New Testament.
And that's what people like you and MM can't stand, and thus resort to this sort of nonsense of 'well you didn't march in lockstep with me so that means you don't know scripture' .
Then show me how it can logically be otherwise. Why is your moral preference more correct or valid than the Maoist's for instance?
That makes no sense. Evidence of what?
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View PostI understand the post-hoc rationalizations Christians try to use, sure.
I know the way CHristians try to interpret the verses when they are inconvenient to them, certainly.
No.
More evidence.
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Originally posted by seer View Post
And your moral sense is just an accident of birth and time. You are largely parroting what you were brought up to believe. More likely in the Christian influenced West.
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Originally posted by seer View Post
Nonsense, since the Creator had no beginning.
As far as Occam's Razor, you would have to show that all the things I mentioned did actually come about naturally - and do it with out begging the question.
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Originally posted by seer View Post
Even you understand the analogies here.
The sword thing was about self defense, the peace thing between other men and within families is about the fact that our faith may cause division with others (not that we get to attack them). Of course, since you were 'almost' a pastor you already knew this. Don't be disingenuous.
So you agree that if moral relativism is true then no moral position is more correct than its opposite?
Really? How is your moral opinion more than preference?
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