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  • rogue06
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    Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post

    It's also FAR more mild than any of the other strains.
    Still amusing how they skipped the next letter in the Greek alphabet after Nu in naming this one.

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  • rogue06
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    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

    We're doomed, we'll all be killed!

    Glum! My man!

    I've been quoting him (imitating his voice naturally) for years in various situations[1].

    The best was when he moans how "We're all doomed. Doomed" and how they're all going to die. This causes the blonde female to tell him to look on the bright side for once.

    Glum pauses for a moment to reflect, and in that moaning voice... "We'll all die together."






    1. he was a Lilliputian in an animated version of Gulliver's Travels that aired Saturday mornings.

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  • Bill the Cat
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    Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
    Omicron seems to be super contagious. It might rapidly become the dominant strain.
    It's also FAR more mild than any of the other strains.

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  • Cow Poke
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    Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post

    2??? THE HORRRRRRORRRRR!!!!!

    We're doomed, we'll all be killed!

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  • Bill the Cat
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    Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
    Two Omicron cases found in the UK today. You can’t stop it traveling.
    2??? THE HORRRRRRORRRRR!!!!!

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  • rogue06
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    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Joe just made a rambling speech, and now he's taking questions, but only specific names that he's reading from a list.

    At least he's not saying "'they' told me to call on....".
    Care to wager on whether or not that on the top of every list of names he has there are, in BIG CAPITAL LETTERS, a reminder along the lines of:

    DO NOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THESE BEING THE PEOPLE YOU WERE TOLD TO CALL ON -- OR NO ICE CREAM FOR A WEEK


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  • Cow Poke
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    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Joe just made a rambling speech, and now he's taking questions, but only specific names that he's reading from a list.

    At least he's not saying "'they' told me to call on....".
    So far, three women have been called on to ask questions, and I bet 'the list' says "DO NOT CALL ON PETER DOOCEY -- DON'T EVEN LOOK AT HIM!!!!"

    (fourth woman called on)

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  • Cow Poke
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    Joe just made a rambling speech, and now he's taking questions, but only specific names that he's reading from a list.

    At least he's not saying "'they' told me to call on....".

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  • rogue06
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    Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

    For the record, Trump's "Africa ban" was not pandemic related.


    Source: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-ban/trumps-expanded-travel-ban-targets-nigeria-five-other-countries-idUSKBN1ZU2WD


    U.S. LEGAL NEWS
    JANUARY 31, 2020 3:13 PM UPDATED 2 YEARS AGO


    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump issued an expanded version of his travel ban on Friday that targets prospective immigrants from Nigeria and five other countries, a move that could affect thousands of people and reignite debate on whether the policy is discriminatory.

    Of the six countries added to the ban, four are African nations and three have Muslim-majority populations. Democrats and immigration advocates accuse the Trump administration of seeking to expand its original 2017 ban that targeted Muslim-majority countries and of disproportionately focusing on African countries.

    Acting Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf said during a call with reporters that the six countries failed to meet U.S. security and information-sharing standards, which necessitated the new restrictions. The problems Wolf cited ranged from sub-par passport technology to a failure to sufficiently exchange information on terrorism suspects and criminals.

    Belarus, which had been under consideration for inclusion, took steps to remedy deficiencies in recent months and will not face visa restrictions, Wolf said.

    The United States will suspend the issuance of visas that can lead to permanent residency for nationals of Eritrea, Kyrgyzstan, Myanmar and Nigeria, a presidential proclamation said. Temporary visas for tourists, businesspeople, students and workers from those nations will not be affected, it said.

    The U.S. government also will stop issuing “diversity visas” to nationals of Sudan and Tanzania, the proclamation said. The visas, which Trump has criticized, are available by lottery for applicants from countries with low rates of immigration.

    (Graphic on visas: tmsnrt.rs/36Hy2zz)

    “These countries, for the most part, want to be helpful,” Wolf said, “but for a variety of different reasons simply failed to meet those minimum requirements that we laid out.”

    The original travel ban barred nearly all immigrants and travelers from seven countries with majority Muslim populations. The policy was revised amid court challenges, but the U.S. Supreme Court ultimately upheld it in June 2018.

    Trump has made cracking down on immigration a focus of his 2020 re-election campaign. His travel ban policy is popular with Republican supporters.

    The existing version of the ban includes Iran, Libya, Somalia, Syria and Yemen. North Korea and Venezuela also face visa bars, but those measures affect relatively few travelers. Those restrictions will remain in place.

    © Copyright Original Source


    You're correct. IIRC, it was based upon recommendations made during the Obama Admin.

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  • CivilDiscourse
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    Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
    Less than a year ago...

    262108887_4518523474904064_995110087708239602_n.jpg
    If it was a "disgrace" then, why not now?
    For the record, Trump's "Africa ban" was not pandemic related.


    Source: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-ban/trumps-expanded-travel-ban-targets-nigeria-five-other-countries-idUSKBN1ZU2WD


    U.S. LEGAL NEWS
    JANUARY 31, 2020 3:13 PM UPDATED 2 YEARS AGO


    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump issued an expanded version of his travel ban on Friday that targets prospective immigrants from Nigeria and five other countries, a move that could affect thousands of people and reignite debate on whether the policy is discriminatory.

    Of the six countries added to the ban, four are African nations and three have Muslim-majority populations. Democrats and immigration advocates accuse the Trump administration of seeking to expand its original 2017 ban that targeted Muslim-majority countries and of disproportionately focusing on African countries.

    Acting Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf said during a call with reporters that the six countries failed to meet U.S. security and information-sharing standards, which necessitated the new restrictions. The problems Wolf cited ranged from sub-par passport technology to a failure to sufficiently exchange information on terrorism suspects and criminals.

    Belarus, which had been under consideration for inclusion, took steps to remedy deficiencies in recent months and will not face visa restrictions, Wolf said.

    The United States will suspend the issuance of visas that can lead to permanent residency for nationals of Eritrea, Kyrgyzstan, Myanmar and Nigeria, a presidential proclamation said. Temporary visas for tourists, businesspeople, students and workers from those nations will not be affected, it said.

    The U.S. government also will stop issuing “diversity visas” to nationals of Sudan and Tanzania, the proclamation said. The visas, which Trump has criticized, are available by lottery for applicants from countries with low rates of immigration.

    (Graphic on visas: tmsnrt.rs/36Hy2zz)

    “These countries, for the most part, want to be helpful,” Wolf said, “but for a variety of different reasons simply failed to meet those minimum requirements that we laid out.”

    The original travel ban barred nearly all immigrants and travelers from seven countries with majority Muslim populations. The policy was revised amid court challenges, but the U.S. Supreme Court ultimately upheld it in June 2018.

    Trump has made cracking down on immigration a focus of his 2020 re-election campaign. His travel ban policy is popular with Republican supporters.

    The existing version of the ban includes Iran, Libya, Somalia, Syria and Yemen. North Korea and Venezuela also face visa bars, but those measures affect relatively few travelers. Those restrictions will remain in place.

    © Copyright Original Source



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  • firstfloor
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    Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
    Have any of the variants not been called super contagious?

    What's more important is how lethal is it.
    True. If it has mild effects and outgrows other varieties it could be good

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  • rogue06
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    Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
    Yup. What the demented duffer declared was racist and xenophobic -- placing travel restrictions on China (a move even Fauci said saved many lives and bought us time) -- he's now doing to a bunch of African countries. And only African countries in spite of the fact that this new variant has been identified in Hong Kong and Israel as well.

    But then, old Joe has a long history of treating blacks differently -- and not in a good way. All the way back to his early days in the Senate when he became buddies with some of the most virulent racists there in order to keep black children from attending the schools his kids went to and, in his own words, turning the schools into "a jungle, a racial jungle." And less than a year ago he was telling black leaders in a zoom conference call that the country is doomed but "not just because of African Americans" -- meaning that blacks are dooming America but they aren't the only reason.

    Source: U.S. to restrict travel from South Africa, 7 other countries as new Covid variant emerges


    The United States will restrict travel for non-U.S. citizens from South Africa and seven other countries starting Monday, part of a global effort to stem the spread of the heavily mutated omicron variant of Covid-19, according to senior Biden administration officials.

    In addition to South Africa, other countries included in the new restrictions are Botswana, Zimbabwe, Namibia, Lesotho, Eswatini, Mozambique and Malawi.



    Source

    © Copyright Original Source



    [*story continues at link provided*]
    Less than a year ago...

    262108887_4518523474904064_995110087708239602_n.jpg
    If it was a "disgrace" then, why not now?

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  • Mountain Man
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    Originally posted by seanD View Post

    Nope. Unless we the people forcefully end it.
    I've been saying for some time that the pandemic will be over just as soon as we decide that it's over, but unfortunately, there is a critical mass of people in the world who want to be coddled by the government and will happily relinquish their essential liberties in exchange for the promise of a little temporary safety.

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  • KingsGambit
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    I may have been too quick earlier to dismiss this. It appears the first wave of infections went through a group of young people, most of whom wouldn't have been hospitalized anyway:

    Does Omicron Cause Only Mild Illness? Too Early to Tell, Experts Say (msn.com)

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  • KingsGambit
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    This appears to just be a mild flu. Hypocrisy over travel bans aside, the science does not appear to support one.

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