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  • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
    Once the left latches onto a lie they are more tenacious than a Pitbull. Polls continue to show that between 30 to 40% still believe that Trump colluded with Putin to throw the 2016 election.
    What are the percentages for people believing that the 2020 election was stolen?
    1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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    Scripture before Tradition:
    but that won't prevent others from
    taking it upon themselves to deprive you
    of the right to call yourself Christian.

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    • Originally posted by tabibito View Post

      What are the percentages for people believing that the 2020 election was stolen?
      Good question. I don't think I've seen a poll.

      I'm always still in trouble again

      "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
      "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
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      • Originally posted by tabibito View Post

        What are the percentages for people believing that the 2020 election was stolen?
        To be fair, there is a heck of a lot more evidence that 2020 was stolen than there is that Trump colluded with Russia.
        Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
        But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
        Than a fool in the eyes of God


        From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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        • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
          Good question. I don't think I've seen a poll.
          This is the most recent I could find quickly.

          I'm apparently an outlier, in that I believe the 2020 election was not "free and fair," and yet have a college degree.

          I would be *somewhat* hesitant to say I believe the election was "stolen," but I'm completely certain libtards, swampy establicans, and fence-riders would interpret my view as exactly that.
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          Beige Federalist.

          Nationalist Christian.

          "Everybody is somebody's heretic."

          Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.

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          • Originally posted by NorrinRadd View Post

            This is the most recent I could find quickly.

            I'm apparently an outlier, in that I believe the 2020 election was not "free and fair," and yet have a college degree.

            I would be *somewhat* hesitant to say I believe the election was "stolen," but I'm completely certain libtards, swampy establicans, and fence-riders would interpret my view as exactly that.
            Indeed, there are differences between having suspicions, believing that there were issues, and thinking that it was stolen.

            I'm always still in trouble again

            "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
            "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
            "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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            • Originally posted by NorrinRadd View Post

              This is the most recent I could find quickly.

              I'm apparently an outlier, in that I believe the 2020 election was not "free and fair," and yet have a college degree.

              I would be *somewhat* hesitant to say I believe the election was "stolen," but I'm completely certain libtards, swampy establicans, and fence-riders would interpret my view as exactly that.
              I firmly believe there were several instances of ballot harvesting going on.
              That's what
              - She

              Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
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              • Originally posted by NorrinRadd View Post

                This is the most recent I could find quickly.

                I'm apparently an outlier, in that I believe the 2020 election was not "free and fair," and yet have a college degree.

                I would be *somewhat* hesitant to say I believe the election was "stolen," but I'm completely certain libtards, swampy establicans, and fence-riders would interpret my view as exactly that.
                Polls that include a category for "college degrees" are usually conducted by Leftist groups, IMO. They could just as easily label them as "potentially brainwashed by academia." In my field, I work with degreed people who can barely spell. If these people can get through college - not to mention primary school - then it doesn't say much for a degree (unless the person is a specialist who used a spellchecker). The "degree" category is supposed to convince people that only dummies disagree with the "educated."

                The evidence is quite clear that there were irregularities in the 2020 election. The question is whether or not it was enough to affect the outcome. There is just no way to know.

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                • Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post

                  I firmly believe there were several instances of ballot harvesting going on.
                  The most suspicious was several key states suspending counting in the middle of the night and sending official observers home when Trump was trouncing Joe and then announcing hours later that Joe had somehow miraculously pulled ahead during a period when ballots supposedly weren't being counted.
                  Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                  But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                  Than a fool in the eyes of God


                  From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                  • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

                    The most suspicious was several key states suspending counting in the middle of the night and sending official observers home when Trump was trouncing Joe and then announcing hours later that Joe had somehow miraculously pulled ahead during a period when ballots supposedly weren't being counted.
                    Yeah that's my largest issue with the election. I don't know it was enough to change the outcome (I'll note it was mostly certain counties, not even full states IIRC)but it happening indicates serious problems with election Integrity. Along with apparent issues of voting machines being connected to the internet (and in general just being very vulnerable to hacking- something Elizabeth Warren was very vocal and concerned about 2019 and earlier but is suddenly very silent on).

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                    • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                      Good question. I don't think I've seen a poll.
                      https://www.rollcall.com/2021/02/24/...o-they-werent/

                      So it comes down to this. Sixty-two percent of Democrats don’t believe the results of the 2016 election, and 61 percent of Republicans don’t believe the outcome of the 2020 election. A statistical dead heat.
                      I kind of had that impression when I asked the question. Truth to tell though - I wasn't expecting the percentages to be so high.
                      1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
                      .
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                      Scripture before Tradition:
                      but that won't prevent others from
                      taking it upon themselves to deprive you
                      of the right to call yourself Christian.

                      ⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛

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                      • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

                        The most suspicious was several key states suspending counting in the middle of the night and sending official observers home when Trump was trouncing Joe and then announcing hours later that Joe had somehow miraculously pulled ahead during a period when ballots supposedly weren't being counted.
                        And coincidentally, no precincts experienced the reverse, where Biden was leading and the counting stopped and the next morning Trump had won. All of the peculiar irregularities favored Biden.

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                        • Originally posted by tabibito View Post



                          I kind of had that impression when I asked the question. Truth to tell though - I wasn't expecting the percentages to be so high.
                          That poll was ten months ago. The one I cited was posted earlier this month. If I'm reading it properly, the percentage of Republican voters who believe there were real, possibly outcome-changing irregularities in the 2020 election has risen by 8-10 points in those months.
                          Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.

                          Beige Federalist.

                          Nationalist Christian.

                          "Everybody is somebody's heretic."

                          Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.

                          Proud member of the this space left blank community.

                          Would-be Grand Vizier of the Padishah Maxi-Super-Ultra-Hyper-Mega-MAGA King Trumpius Rex.

                          Justice for Ashli Babbitt!

                          Justice for Matthew Perna!

                          Arrest Ray Epps and his Fed bosses!

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                          • Originally posted by Ronson View Post

                            And coincidentally, no precincts experienced the reverse, where Biden was leading and the counting stopped and the next morning Trump had won. All of the peculiar irregularities favored Biden.
                            Saw a CNN clip from election night some time ago where the talking heads were discussing a particular state that was almost all red, and then it suddenly flipped to almost all blue, and the talking heads stared in stunned silence for several seconds before saying, "I don't know what just happened."
                            Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                            But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                            Than a fool in the eyes of God


                            From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                            • The reason I use the expression "not 'free and fair'" is that I think things beyond the voting process itself arrayed against Bad Orange Man. The information gatekeepers have tremendous influence. There was some researcher who made a big deal about that several years ago, but I can't recall his name. He was a liberal, but still concerned about the bias of social media, other media, and search engines, and the ways they can affect beliefs and actions.
                              Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.

                              Beige Federalist.

                              Nationalist Christian.

                              "Everybody is somebody's heretic."

                              Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.

                              Proud member of the this space left blank community.

                              Would-be Grand Vizier of the Padishah Maxi-Super-Ultra-Hyper-Mega-MAGA King Trumpius Rex.

                              Justice for Ashli Babbitt!

                              Justice for Matthew Perna!

                              Arrest Ray Epps and his Fed bosses!

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                              • Originally posted by NorrinRadd View Post

                                That poll was ten months ago. The one I cited was posted earlier this month. If I'm reading it properly, the percentage of Republican voters who believe there were real, possibly outcome-changing irregularities in the 2020 election has risen by 8-10 points in those months.
                                I was looking for comparative percentages of people on the losing side subscribing to the idea that the election was stolen shortly after the election. The numbers suggest that there are real grounds for suspicion (around the 20% of the losing side mark, the number could be written off as conspiracy theorists.)

                                Rogues comment:
                                Once the left latches onto a lie they are more tenacious than a Pitbull. Polls continue to show that between 30 to 40% still believe that Trump colluded with Putin to throw the 2016 election.
                                It isn't just the left that exhibits the tendency.
                                Last edited by tabibito; 11-30-2021, 09:58 AM.
                                1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
                                .
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                                Scripture before Tradition:
                                but that won't prevent others from
                                taking it upon themselves to deprive you
                                of the right to call yourself Christian.

                                ⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛

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