Kyle Rittenhouse...

[Sparko]

You are all looking at this the wrong way:

So basically they are saying that someone carrying a gun is a threat and should be taken care of by bystanders? How strange. When a black man with a gun is shot, the argument is that just having a gun is not a threat and they only shot him because he was black.

[Cow Poke]

He went there prepared to shoot anyone that he deemed to be committing a crime, ready to act as policeman, judge, jury and executioner.

A) That's a whole lot of blockheaded assumin' goin' on there
2) You'd have to PROVE that because
c) The burden of proof rests on the prosecution in such a case

You cannot defend lawlessness on this scale by pleas to self defense.

Fortunately for you, it's not illegal to post stupidity on a discussion board no matter how intense it is.

[Cow Poke]

Judge won't rule on requests for mistrial until after the verdict. Indicates that the kerfuffle over the video quality shouldn't be a factor.

[rogue06]

Basically he said if they return a guilty verdict, he will consider it. So if they return not guilty, that will stand.

But I suspect that if there is a guilty verdict, that there plenty of "mistakes" that the prosecution made throughout the trial to warrant an appeal if not a mistrial.

Not a good idea. The MSM is already vilifying him as a racist crazy judge for not allowing Rittenhouse to be railroaded by a corrupt prosecutor. If he throws out a guilty verdict there will definitely be rioting and probably not just there. He should make a determination before the jury announces its decision.

[Sparko]

Not a good idea. The MSM is already vilifying him as a racist crazy judge for not allowing Rittenhouse to be railroaded by a corrupt prosecutor. If he throws out a guilty verdict there will definitely be rioting and probably not just there. He should make a determination before the jury announces its decision.

I think it has to be that way in order to give the benefit of the doubt to the accused.

Basically the argument the defense is making is that if the prosecution had given them a clearer copy of the video, then they would have addressed it in their defense, but because their copy was so blurry they didn't think it was credible or important. So that means the jury didn't hear both sides equally. If they come back not guilty then it doesn't matter. But if they use that video to return a guilty verdict then it does matter because the defense didn't have the opportunity to present a vigorous defense against the prosecution's claims.

[Cow Poke]

And, don't forget - if they DO find him guilty, there's plenty of reason to file an appeal.

[rogue06]

who-traveled-farther-to-be-kenosha-rittenhouse-vs-grossdreutz.jpg
Anyone care to guess which one is a convicted felon career criminal who was illegally
carrying a firearm but the MSM studiously ignores?

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That isn't a milkshake he's got there in his hand.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

Not a good idea. The MSM is already vilifying him as a racist crazy judge for not allowing Rittenhouse to be railroaded by a corrupt prosecutor. If he throws out a guilty verdict there will definitely be rioting and probably not just there. He should make a determination before the jury announces its decision.

Why do you consider the prosecutor to be "corrupt"?

[Cow Poke]

Why do you consider the prosecutor to be "corrupt"?

He's certainly inept, but I'll defer to Rogue's answer as to corruption.

[Sparko]

Why do you consider the prosecutor to be "corrupt"?

The prosecution has misstated the law to the jury several times, actually lied a few times and kept relevant evidence from the defense. Read the thread for the details.

[Gondwanaland]

who-traveled-farther-to-be-kenosha-rittenhouse-vs-grossdreutz.jpg
Anyone care to guess which one is a convicted felon career criminal who was illegally
carrying a firearm but the MSM studiously ignores?

NINTCHDBPICT000604713074.jpg
That isn't a milkshake he's got there in his hand.

Just have to make a quick correction here, it was widely reported early on that - Grosskreutz was a felon but it it turns out he has no felony record (he does have a record, but they are misdemeanors). He was, however, there is there concealed carrying a gun with an expired concealed carry license which made his action in carrying it concealed, illegal

[Cow Poke]

The prosecution has misstated the law to the jury several times, actually lied a few times and kept relevant evidence from the defense. Read the thread for the details.

And the media have been terribly dishonest, as well, including a declaration of "white supremacist" by Sleepy Joe.

10 heinous lies about Kyle Rittenhouse debunked

Short list of the lies...
1. He killed two black BLM protesters.
2. He crossed state lines.
3. Rittenhouse took an AR-15 across state lines.
4. The gun was illegal.
5. Rittenhouse’s mother drove him across state lines to the riot.
6. He was an “active shooter” who took his gun to a riot looking for trouble.
7. Rittenhouse is a “white supremacist,” as then-candidate Joe Biden labeled him in a tweet showing the teenager’s photograph.
8. He “flashed white power signs” with Proud Boys.
9. He wore surgical gloves “to cover his fingerprints.”
10. Judge Bruce Schroeder is a “Trumpy” racist biased toward the defense.

[Sparko]

Just have to make a quick correction here, it was widely reported early on that - Grosskreutz was a felon but it it turns out he has no felony record (he does have a record, but they are misdemeanors). He was, however, there is there concealed carrying a gun with an expired concealed carry license which made his action in carrying it concealed, illegal

All of the photos I saw showed him either carrying it in his hand, or shoved into his waistband but outside of his shirt. Of course you wouldn't see it in a photo if it was concealed, but what evidence/testimony is there that he was concealing it?

[rogue06]

Why do you consider the prosecutor to be "corrupt"?

There is no conceivable way that he was unaware that many of things he has said were emphatically false.

[Cow Poke]

There is no conceivable way that he was unaware that many of things he has said were emphatically false.

Unless he was a moron, but somehow, he passed the bar exam.