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  • #61
    Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
    Again, if it were a motivating factor, not even the major one, for passing the 2A, we should see that being discussed in the various pamphlets and letters at the time.
    That is why early on I was asking for quotes of the Founders in context - still waiting...
    Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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    • #62
      Why is anyone even discussing the second amendment and race with FF, who lives in Scotland, a country where handguns are illegal and with a black population of 0.5%?

      The only black person he probably ever saw was on TV.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Sparko View Post
        Why is anyone even discussing the second amendment and race with FF, who lives in Scotland, a country where handguns are illegal and with a black population of 0.5%?

        The only black person he probably ever saw was on TV.
        FF is a Scot? Sad, they used to have men up there....
        Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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        • #64
          Originally posted by seer View Post
          That is why early on I was asking for quotes of the Founders in context - still waiting...
          There should be numerous references in the Federalist Papers alone.

          I'm always still in trouble again

          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
          "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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          • #65
            Originally posted by seer View Post

            FF is a Scot? Sad, they used to have men up there....
            And, though they wore skirts, I bet they don't wear pearls!
            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

              And, though they wore skirts, I bet they don't wear pearls!
              This is my cousin, kind of cool...

              250577782_2439136189554550_4513288871924829077_n.jpg
              Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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              • #67
                Originally posted by seer View Post

                This is my cousin, kind of cool...

                250577782_2439136189554550_4513288871924829077_n.jpg
                Bagpipes as well.

                I'm always still in trouble again

                "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                  Bagpipes as well.
                  He is a well known piper, played for Prince Charles and Diana on their yacht back in the day. He lives in Key West...
                  Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by seer View Post

                    He is a well known piper, played for Prince Charles and Diana on their yacht back in the day. He lives in Key West...
                    We had a Scot in full uniform play the bagpipes for my Dad's 90th birthday, and that guy was HUGE!!!! I bet without the tall black furry hat, the guy was 6'6".
                    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by seer View Post
                      He is a well known piper, played for Prince Charles and Diana on their yacht back in the day. He lives in Key West...



                      I'm always still in trouble again

                      "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                      "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                      "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by rogue06 View Post


                        History takes a different view, for historically accurate reasons.

                        Don't you think it is telling that the only rejoinder you could provide was to merely say that Anderson disagrees? Where's the corroborating evidence? Just because Anderson says so?
                        Take a look at Patrick Henry.
                        “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
                        “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
                        “not all there” - you know who you are

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by firstfloor View Post

                          Take a look at Patrick Henry.
                          He's dead. Long time ago. And, unlike Democrats, hasn't voted since.
                          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by firstfloor View Post

                            Take a look at Patrick Henry.
                            He doesn't look so good now....
                            "What has the Church gained if it is popular, but there is no conviction, no repentance, no power?" - A.W. Tozer

                            "... there are two parties in Washington, the stupid party and the evil party, who occasionally get together and do something both stupid and evil, and this is called bipartisanship." - Everett Dirksen

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
                              Take a look at Patrick Henry.
                              Patrick Henry was opposed to the entire Constitution. Ironically his opposition may have helped to motivate the formation of the Bill of Rights


                              Last edited by rogue06; 11-01-2021, 03:10 PM.

                              I'm always still in trouble again

                              "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                              "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                              "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by firstfloor View Post

                                Take a look at Patrick Henry.
                                I listen to the whole podcast. The fact is in that she made claims that she did not back up with actual references/quotes. Not saying she was wrong, but we need original sourcing and quotes. Her main point was that the desire for state militias (as opposed to federal) had to do with the idea that the southern states needed the state militias in case of slave revolts. And that without the acceptance of state militias the Bill of rights or at least the Second Amendment would not pass. I grant that that could have been a consideration - but the main driver? I see no evidence of that. There could be many more important reasons to want to keep the militias under state control.
                                Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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