The second amendment

[seer]

Take a look at Patrick Henry.

I listen to the whole podcast. The fact is in that she made claims that she did not back up with actual references/quotes. Not saying she was wrong, but we need original sourcing and quotes. Her main point was that the desire for state militias (as opposed to federal) had to do with the idea that the southern states needed the state militias in case of slave revolts. And that without the acceptance of state militias the Bill of rights or at least the Second Amendment would not pass. I grant that that could have been a consideration - but the main driver? I see no evidence of that. There could be many more important reasons to want to keep the militias under state control.

[rogue06]

Take a look at Patrick Henry.

Patrick Henry was opposed to the entire Constitution. Ironically his opposition may have helped to motivate the formation of the Bill of Rights

[Littlejoe]

Take a look at Patrick Henry.

He doesn't look so good now....

[Cow Poke]

Take a look at Patrick Henry.

He's dead. Long time ago. And, unlike Democrats, hasn't voted since.

[firstfloor]

History takes a different view, for historically accurate reasons.

Don't you think it is telling that the only rejoinder you could provide was to merely say that Anderson disagrees? Where's the corroborating evidence? Just because Anderson says so?

Take a look at Patrick Henry.

[rogue06]

He is a well known piper, played for Prince Charles and Diana on their yacht back in the day. He lives in Key West...

[Cow Poke]

He is a well known piper, played for Prince Charles and Diana on their yacht back in the day. He lives in Key West...

We had a Scot in full uniform play the bagpipes for my Dad's 90th birthday, and that guy was HUGE!!!! I bet without the tall black furry hat, the guy was 6'6".

[seer]

Bagpipes as well.

He is a well known piper, played for Prince Charles and Diana on their yacht back in the day. He lives in Key West...

[rogue06]

This is my cousin, kind of cool...

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Bagpipes as well.

[seer]

And, though they wore skirts, I bet they don't wear pearls!

This is my cousin, kind of cool...

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[Cow Poke]

FF is a Scot? Sad, they used to have men up there....

And, though they wore skirts, I bet they don't wear pearls!

[rogue06]

That is why early on I was asking for quotes of the Founders in context - still waiting...

There should be numerous references in the Federalist Papers alone.

[seer]

Why is anyone even discussing the second amendment and race with FF, who lives in Scotland, a country where handguns are illegal and with a black population of 0.5%?

The only black person he probably ever saw was on TV.

FF is a Scot? Sad, they used to have men up there....

[Sparko]

Why is anyone even discussing the second amendment and race with FF, who lives in Scotland, a country where handguns are illegal and with a black population of 0.5%?

The only black person he probably ever saw was on TV.

[seer]

Again, if it were a motivating factor, not even the major one, for passing the 2A, we should see that being discussed in the various pamphlets and letters at the time.

That is why early on I was asking for quotes of the Founders in context - still waiting...