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  • #31
    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

    And are paying the price in dramatic increases in crime, including murder. So, yeah, I'm laying this on the Democrats.

    Did you see that little Omar is actually blaming the POLICE for the increase in crime?
    Ilhan Omar blames cops for spike in violent crime in Minneapolis after advocating for defunding the police

    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
      https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...rother-remains
      Abandoned children found living in Texas apartment with brother’s remains


      The skeletal remains of a child and three surviving siblings who appear to have been abandoned have been found inside an apartment in the Houston area of Texas, US.

      One of the children, a 15-year-old, called the Harris county sheriff’s office on Sunday afternoon and told authorities that his nine-year-old brother had been dead for a year and the body was inside the apartment, the office said in a statement.



      Deputies responded and found the teenager and two other siblings aged 10 and seven living alone in the apartment, said the Harris county sheriff, Ed Gonzalez. The other child’s skeletal remains were also located.

      “It appears that the remains had been there for an extended period of time. And I emphasise extended,” Gonzalez said.

      The sheriff said it also appeared the surviving children were “fending for each other”, with the oldest caring for the younger two. It was unclear whether any were attending school.

      The younger children appeared malnourished and had physical injuries, the statement said. All three were taken to a hospital to be assessed and treated.

      The mother of the children and her boyfriend were later located, authorities said. Both were being questioned.

      Neighbours expressed shock and disbelief when they learned about the children. Kayla Williams told the Houston Chronicle she had two children but did not plan to tell them what happened. “I don’t need to put this in their heads,” she said. “This is crazy.”


      One does wonder why no one in an apartment block noticed anything. That the mother "and her boyfriend" have been located raises some serious questions.


      I'm curious why you posted this in Civics. It's a tragic story, yes, but was there a point you thought was worthy of discussion or debate?
      Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
      But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
      Than a fool in the eyes of God


      From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

        I'm curious why you posted this in Civics. It's a tragic story, yes, but was there a point you thought was worthy of discussion or debate?
        She seems to have a thing for Texas - ever since her "Texas Bounty Hunter" thread blew up in her face.
        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

          I'm curious why you posted this in Civics. It's a tragic story, yes, but was there a point you thought was worthy of discussion or debate?
          It is just another example of what appears to be, at least on known facts so far, parental neglect. Given that similar incidents occur across the world, one wonders how and why some parents behave in such a manner. Of course abandoning children is nothing new but in western societies it is generally considered somewhat reprehensible.
          "It ain't necessarily so
          The things that you're liable
          To read in the Bible
          It ain't necessarily so
          ."

          Sportin' Life
          Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
            It is just another example of what appears to be, at least on known facts so far, parental neglect.
            That's one factor.

            Given that similar incidents occur across the world, one wonders how and why some parents behave in such a manner. Of course abandoning children is nothing new but in western societies it is generally considered somewhat reprehensible.
            It has very much to do with the nuclear family, which the liberals have been targeting for destruction for years.

            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

              It is just another example of what appears to be, at least on known facts so far, parental neglect. Given that similar incidents occur across the world, one wonders how and why some parents behave in such a manner. Of course abandoning children is nothing new but in western societies it is generally considered somewhat reprehensible.
              While it is reprehensible, like many of society's ills, it is a symptom of a larger problem that I believe has its roots in the concerted effort over the past 50-years or so to remove God and religion from the public sphere. The more secular the US becomes, the more these sorts of things seem to rear their ugly heads.
              Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
              But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
              Than a fool in the eyes of God


              From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Sparko View Post

                one trocity.
                Wait... Maybe the "a" acts as a negation. So it may be a non-trocity or anti-trocity.
                Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.

                Beige Federalist.

                Nationalist Christian.

                "Everybody is somebody's heretic."

                Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.

                Proud member of the this space left blank community.

                Would-be Grand Vizier of the Padishah Maxi-Super-Ultra-Hyper-Mega-MAGA King Trumpius Rex.

                Justice for Ashli Babbitt!

                Justice for Matthew Perna!

                Arrest Ray Epps and his Fed bosses!

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

                  While it is reprehensible, like many of society's ills, it is a symptom of a larger problem that I believe has its roots in the concerted effort over the past 50-years or so to remove God and religion from the public sphere. The more secular the US becomes, the more these sorts of things seem to rear their ugly heads.
                  Rather a naive comment given that when US society ostensibly had "God and religion" in "the public sphere" it was hardly less abusive and inhumane. The use of child labour in the late nineteenth century comes to mind as well as the appallingly low age for the age of consent [in the 1880s in most states it was set at 10 or 12 years old]. Then of course there were the abuses of people of colour with random murder [lynching] regularly taking place.
                  "It ain't necessarily so
                  The things that you're liable
                  To read in the Bible
                  It ain't necessarily so
                  ."

                  Sportin' Life
                  Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                    That's one factor.



                    It has very much to do with the nuclear family, which the liberals have been targeting for destruction for years.
                    The phrase "nuclear family" is somewhat fluid and has not always referred to an entirely separate living area wherein reside two biological parents and their offspring, which is how we understand the phrase today.
                    "It ain't necessarily so
                    The things that you're liable
                    To read in the Bible
                    It ain't necessarily so
                    ."

                    Sportin' Life
                    Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
                      Rather a naive comment given that when US society ostensibly had "God and religion" in "the public sphere" it was hardly less abusive and inhumane.
                      We haven't 'had "God and religion" in "the public sphere"' since around 1960 when the courts started removing Him. Some would argue that there is a direct correlation between that and the steady increase in sociopathic and criminal behavior we've witnessed in the intervening decades.

                      Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
                      The use of child labour in the late nineteenth century comes to mind as well as the appallingly low age for the age of consent [in the 1880s in most states it was set at 10 or 12 years old].
                      Remind me again, what is Germany's age of consent, not in the 1880s, but in the 2020s.





                      I'm always still in trouble again

                      "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                      "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                      "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

                        The phrase "nuclear family" is somewhat fluid and has not always referred to an entirely separate living area wherein reside two biological parents and their offspring, which is how we understand the phrase today.
                        Tell that to George P. Murdock when he coined that term in 1949. Up until recently it was defined as being a two-parent household where both parents are married, but that definition was changed in recent years.

                        IOW, you have it backwards.

                        I'm always still in trouble again

                        "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                        "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                        "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                          We haven't 'had "God and religion" in "the public sphere"' since around 1960 when the courts started removing Him. Some would argue that there is a direct correlation between that and the steady increase in sociopathic and criminal behavior we've witnessed in the intervening decades.
                          Are you contending that child labour was [to use Seller and Yeatman's phrase] "a good thing"?

                          Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                          Remind me again, what is Germany's age of consent, not in the 1880s, but in the 2020s.
                          In 1880 the age of consent in Germany was fourteen years of age.

                          In Delaware USA it was seven years of age. In other US states in the same year the age ranged from ten years to twelve years of age.

                          https://chnm.gmu.edu/cyh/teaching-mo...rces&source=24





                          "It ain't necessarily so
                          The things that you're liable
                          To read in the Bible
                          It ain't necessarily so
                          ."

                          Sportin' Life
                          Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                            Tell that to George P. Murdock when he coined that term in 1949. Up until recently it was defined as being a two-parent household where both parents are married, but that definition was changed in recent years.

                            IOW, you have it backwards.
                            You might find the following interesting. Or of course you could read some anthropology.



                            http://anthropology.iresearchnet.com/nuclear-family/
                            Nuclear Family

                            The nuclear family is one type of conjugal, or marriage-based, family, consisting of a husband, wife, and their children who reside together. Characteristics of the nuclear family that set it apart from some other family types is that it contains only two generations and that it contains a married couple. A single-parent family is considered a nonconjugal family.

                            In large-scale, Western, industrial societies, nuclear and single-parent families are the predominant type of family form, but in other, smaller-scale, less Westernized cultures, the nuclear family may be relatively rare and unimportant, or even nonexistent. In larger-scale societies, individuals can function more independently of their families, and the functions that larger, extended families used to supply to their members have been increasingly taken over by other social institutions, such as schools, churches, hospitals, police, and paid leisure and entertainment industries.

                            Some historians and demographers have suggested that the rise of the nuclear family in northwest Europe, traced back to 1300 in some regions, developed in response to a unique set of ecological conditions, laying the foundations for industrialization hundreds of years before the first factories were built. Northwestern European families followed a neolocal residence pattern, whereby a couple did not marry until they were able to establish their own household.

                            In general, nuclear families are characterized by normatively stronger marital bonds between husbands and wives than are expected in extended-family or other societies. Societies where nuclear families are common are more likely to allow young people to select their own spouse, with less involvement on the part of their parents. Relations with in-laws are likewise attenuated, although kin-based work groups and socializing may still be extensive. Divorce is also more likely to be tolerated, with one spouse perhaps simply putting the other spouse’s belongings outside their home to indicate the end of the marriage.

                            Nuclear families are less likely to be found in agricultural societies where most families work the land cooperatively. A nuclear-family structure facilitates mobility, whether it is migratory labor or movement to urban areas or across borders. The smallest societies, hunter-gatherers, are frequently organized into small groups of nuclear families who work cooperatively and are characterized by significant gender egalitarianism. Members of society are “produced” by families by the process of providing food, shelter, clothing, health care, and emotional intimacy. Individuals are also provided with social status through membership in their families of origin, although in societies with many nuclear families, social mobility is typically possible, which allows individuals to have more of an influence over their own social class.

                            Nuclear families share with all families the function of producing new adult members of society through conception, birth, nurturing, and socialization. Families regulate the sexual activities of their members, allowing regular sexual relations between spouses and prohibiting sexual relations among all other members. When children in nuclear families reach adulthood, their legal responsibilities to their families of origin and their parents’ obligations to them are generally reduced, replaced with voluntary companionship. This creates the possibility of extreme isolation for nuclear families, which have fewer resources for child care, elder care, and assistance throughout the life course.

                            References:
                            1. Goode, W. J. (1963). World revolution and family patterns. New York: Free Press of Glencoe.
                            2. Goode, W. J. (1964). The family. Englewood Cliffs, NJ: Prentice Hall.
                            3. Laslett, P. (Ed.). (1972). Household and family in past time. New York: Cambridge University Press.
                            4. Shorter, E. (1975). The making of the modern family. New York: Basic Books.


                            "It ain't necessarily so
                            The things that you're liable
                            To read in the Bible
                            It ain't necessarily so
                            ."

                            Sportin' Life
                            Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

                              Rather a naive comment given that when US society ostensibly had "God and religion" in "the public sphere" it was hardly less abusive and inhumane. The use of child labour in the late nineteenth century comes to mind as well as the appallingly low age for the age of consent [in the 1880s in most states it was set at 10 or 12 years old]. Then of course there were the abuses of people of colour with random murder [lynching] regularly taking place.
                              What would be naive is to imply that I ever suggested that the United States was morally perfect until recently. We've had our ups and downs like any society but always with a strong faith in God and the Bible which allowed us to overcome many evils like slavery, like exploiting children for labor, and so on. When a boat is tethered, it might drift, but it will never stray far from its anchor. Starting around the 1960s, liberals have done everything they can to free the United States from its moral anchor, and now it seems the country is adrift.
                              Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                              But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                              Than a fool in the eyes of God


                              From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

                                The phrase "nuclear family" is somewhat fluid and has not always referred to an entirely separate living area wherein reside two biological parents and their offspring, which is how we understand the phrase today.
                                I really don't give a flyin' flip about your know-it-all obfuscation - every kid needs and deserves a mom and a dad.

                                Meanwhile....

                                Charges have been filed against the mother of three children rescued from a west Harris County apartment, where authorities also found the long-dead body of a fourth child inside the a bedroom.

                                Gloria Williams, 35 was arrested Tuesday afternoon on charges of injury to a child by omission and tampering with evidence, in this case a human corpse. Her boyfriend, Brian Coulter, has been charged with murder in the death of the child found in the apartment.

                                Sheriff Ed Gonzalez said the child was 8 at the time of his death in 2020.

                                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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