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Bipartisan Pundits Goof on Flaccid Biden Bill
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostBack when they were lying about how it would all be paid for by increasing taxes on corporations and those earning more than $400,000 a year, support was 57%Last edited by Mountain Man; 10-23-2021, 11:13 AM.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostWhen asked about individual components, the majority of Americans favor them. That is no surprise. It is also an old polling trick that many of us caught on to a long time back. You ask a very generic question like "would you like ABC?" Most everyone does. But when you ask if we want taxes to go up to pay for it... You get a very different response. After all, why do you think old Joe and other folks who slept through economics class, are so keen on convincing us that their $3.5 Trillion pork barrel spending spree will cost zero dollars?
Back when they were lying about how it would all be paid for by increasing taxes on corporations and those earning more than $400,000 a year, support was 57%
When they lied about it "only" costing between $1.5-2.2 Trillion, support dropped to 51%.
And when they lied[1] about it costing $3.5 Trillion, support fell down to only 41%.
1. Even some liberal economists admit it'll cost at least another trillion.
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostTry actually looking at some polling around the provisions that are in the BBB plan. I follow the polling rather than just assuming I know what people think. You should try it sometime.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostYou are completely tone-deaf to what most Americans want, Starlight. It's just the opposite of what you are claiming.
Republican voters hate it
Why do you think Biden's popularity keeps falling among democrats and independents?
Heck Biden hasn't even written the BBB yet. He is just running around promising the moon (and it won't cost you a dime!) without even having a bill written yet.
This BBB plan is a joke.
It is a last ditch effort by the liberal left to push through all of their crazy plans at once before the mid-terms get here. They have to get it done now because they won't be able to get another budget passed until after the mid-terms next year and by then it will be too late.
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostWithout watching the link, I agree the legislation would massively, massively, massively, benefit America. The provisions in it are hugely popular with voters, even with Republican voters.
Heck Biden hasn't even written the BBB yet. He is just running around promising the moon (and it won't cost you a dime!) without even having a bill written yet. This BBB plan is a joke. It is a last ditch effort by the liberal left to push through all of their crazy plans at once before the mid-terms get here. They have to get it done now because they won't be able to get another budget passed until after the mid-terms next year and by then it will be too late.
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Originally posted by whag View PostThe Democrats are caving on Biden bill. Krystal Ball and Saagar Enjeti break down the world’s most toothless piece of pending legislation:
https://youtu.be/PL05-zn1PFA
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Without watching the link, I agree the legislation would massively, massively, massively, benefit America. The provisions in it are hugely popular with voters, even with Republican voters.
The Republican Senators, being just plain evil, are unanimously refusing to support it, just for the sake of being obstructionist. They would prefer to destroy America than provide Biden with a single political win. If there's a hell, Republicans will burn in it.
Unfortunately the Democrats have the slimmest possible majority in the Senate because in many states the populace is too stupid to vote Democrat. This means that absolutely every single Senate democrat vote is need to pass the legislation. But unfortunately of the 50 Democratic senators, there's two who are corrupt. So those two are pocketing cash from the rich rather than voting for the bill.
The country wouldn't be in that situation of being held hostage by two corrupt senators if any of: (a) even two Republican senators weren't evil and agreed to vote for the bill, (b) Biden had a spine and actually was willing to play hardball with those two corrupt senators to force them to vote for his legislation, or (c) the American electoral system wasn't so stupid as to produce outcomes like this, where Democratic voters have a significant majority nationwide but the elected Senate is exactly 50-50, or (d) there were stronger anti-corruption laws that would prevent those two senators being so corrupt.
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Bipartisan Pundits Goof on Flaccid Biden Bill
The Democrats are caving on Biden bill. Krystal Ball and Saagar Enjeti break down the world’s most toothless piece of pending legislation:
https://youtu.be/PL05-zn1PFA
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