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Fauci is a liar: letter proves that NIH did fund gain of function research
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Originally posted by seanD View Post
I don't think any criminal charges will happen, but this may be what is used to get him to step down. He's publicly damaged goods, especially on social media, so they need a new face to sell this BS.
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Originally posted by Stoic View Post
Some people (Ebright, Rand Paul, et al) consider research to be "gain of function" if there is any chance that a change in the virus could make it significantly more infectious in humans, or if it turns out after the fact that the virus is significantly more infectious in humans.
Others (Fauci, Collins, et al) consider it to be "gain of function" research only if it can be reasonably anticipated that the virus will be significantly more infectious in humans.
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
I think they're building him up as a fall guy if things go south
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Originally posted by Ronson View PostSo, infecting mice with a bat virus is not "gain of function" because the specific term wasn't used? Or is it because humans were not mentioned as being involved in the experiement?
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Originally posted by Ronson View PostSo, infecting mice with a bat virus is not "gain of function" because the specific term wasn't used? Or is it because humans were not mentioned as being involved in the experiement?
Others (Fauci, Collins, et al) consider it to be "gain of function" research only if it can be reasonably anticipated that the virus will be significantly more infectious in humans.
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Originally posted by Juvenal View PostRather than trusting Breitbart, a source long since acknowledged as suspect by even the partisans here, or simply dismissing them without consideration, one could bend over backwards to be fair, read the letter, and see what it actually says.
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Once again, it appears Breitbart is peddling reckless untruths.
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostThe man is bulletproof.
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Originally posted by Ronson View PostSo, infecting mice with a bat virus is not "gain of function" because the specific term wasn't used? Or is it because humans were not mentioned as being involved in the experiement?
But I'm not an expert and I defer to anyone working in the field that can shed light on why this particular bit of discussion keeps getting twisted about.
but it appears to me to be the uneducated not understanding the technical nuances of how and when to apply the term.
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Originally posted by Ronson View PostSo, infecting mice with a bat virus is not "gain of function" because the specific term wasn't used? Or is it because humans were not mentioned as being involved in the experiement?
Ebright has the CV that should mean he knows what he's talking about, so perhaps I'm missing something. Then again, Breitbart ain't exactly the best place to get educated on the intricacies of molecular biology...
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So, infecting mice with a bat virus is not "gain of function" because the specific term wasn't used? Or is it because humans were not mentioned as being involved in the experiement?
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostSen. Tom Cotton (R-AR) on Wednesday demanded Dr. Anthony Fauci be “investigated and prosecuted” for funding gain-of-function research in Communist China’s Wuhan lab.
“Fauci knew,” Cotton tweeted about Fauci’s previous denial to the Senate in May that the National Institutes of Health (NIH) funded gain-of-function research at the Wuhan lab. “He should be investigated and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law,” Cotton said.
When Fauci was asked before the Senate if the NIH had funded gain-of-function research at the Wuhan lab, Fauci replied that the NIH “has not ever and does not now fund gain-of-function research in the Wuhan Institute of Virology.”
But a letter from the NIH, revealed by molecular biologist Richard H. Ebright, admits the NIH did fund gain-of-function research at the Wuhan lab in China.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...rch-wuhan-lab/
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Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR) on Wednesday demanded Dr. Anthony Fauci be “investigated and prosecuted” for funding gain-of-function research in Communist China’s Wuhan lab.
“Fauci knew,” Cotton tweeted about Fauci’s previous denial to the Senate in May that the National Institutes of Health (NIH) funded gain-of-function research at the Wuhan lab. “He should be investigated and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law,” Cotton said.
When Fauci was asked before the Senate if the NIH had funded gain-of-function research at the Wuhan lab, Fauci replied that the NIH “has not ever and does not now fund gain-of-function research in the Wuhan Institute of Virology.”
But a letter from the NIH, revealed by molecular biologist Richard H. Ebright, admits the NIH did fund gain-of-function research at the Wuhan lab in China.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...rch-wuhan-lab/
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Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
Ah, but you see, it didn't specifically use the phrase "gain of function", therefore it proves nothing.
Originally posted by Stoic View Post
It's curious that Ebright, who has a PhD from Harvard, can't figure out that the letter is explaining why the research was not considered "gain of function" research.
Perhaps it was because the letter didn't use the phrase "gain of function".
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