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Fauci is a liar: letter proves that NIH did fund gain of function research

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  • Gondwanaland
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    Originally posted by Stoic View Post

    Sometimes new science requires a change in definitions. There was nothing about the mRNA vaccines that needed to be "fixed".
    Except new science wasn't what changed it. It was the need to adjust in order to dismiss people who questioned their mRNA vaccines. Politics is the reason why it changed. nothing else.

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  • Mountain Man
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    Originally posted by Stoic View Post

    If the old definition (as interpreted by some people) would mean that nothing qualifies as a vaccine, it's time to change the definition.
    The old definition was just fine. The only reason the CDC changed it, and you can follow the link above to see the relevant internal communications, was because of critics pointing out that the mRNA jab didn't meet the CDC's own longstanding and perfectly acceptable definition. That's not following the science, that's moving the goalposts.

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  • Stoic
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    Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

    It had nothing to do with science and was simply a ruse employed in an attempt to silence critics.

    definition.jpg
    https://technofog.substack.com/p/cdc...ion-of-vaccine

    Why fix your vaccine that doesn't act like a vaccine when you can simply move the goalposts instead?
    If the old definition (as interpreted by some people) would mean that nothing qualifies as a vaccine, it's time to change the definition.

    Source: https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/breakthrough-infections-coronavirus-after-vaccination


    ​​​​​​A breakthrough infection is an infection with a virus, bacterium or other germ after you have been vaccinated. This is an expected occurrence for a small percentage of those receiving any vaccine, since no vaccine for any disease is 100% effective in preventing infection in every person who receives it.

    © Copyright Original Source

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  • Mountain Man
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    Originally posted by Stoic View Post

    Sometimes new science requires a change in definitions.
    It had nothing to do with science and was simply a ruse employed in an attempt to silence critics.

    definition.jpg
    https://technofog.substack.com/p/cdc...ion-of-vaccine

    Why fix your vaccine that doesn't act like a vaccine when you can simply move the goalposts instead?
    Last edited by Mountain Man; 11-07-2021, 11:18 AM.

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  • Gondwanaland
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    Originally posted by Ronson View Post

    Fauci wants to keep his paycheck and/or reputation. The guy is 80 years old. He needs to step down.
    I honestly don't know how he still had a job after what he did during the AIDS epidemic. Let alone several more decades of bungling.

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  • Stoic
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    Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

    It was the CDC. They changed the definition from a medication that grants immunity to one that merely offers protection. The goal was explicitly to silence critics who pointed out, correctly, that mRNA shots didn't meet the CDC's definition of vaccine, so instead of fixing the vaccine, they simply changed the definition. See my post here.
    Sometimes new science requires a change in definitions. There was nothing about the mRNA vaccines that needed to be "fixed".

    Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definition_of_planet


    The issue of a clear definition for planet came to a head in January 2005 with the discovery of the trans-Neptunian objectEris, a body more massive than the smallest then-accepted planet, Pluto. In its August 2006 response, the International Astronomical Union (IAU), recognised by astronomers as the world body responsible for resolving issues of nomenclature, released its decision on the matter during a meeting in Prague. This definition, which applies only to the Solar System (though exoplanets had been addressed in 2003), states that a planet is a body that orbits the Sun, is massive enough for its own gravity to make it round, and has "cleared its neighbourhood" of smaller objects approaching its orbit. Under this formalized definition, Pluto and other trans-Neptunian objects do not qualify as planets. The IAU's decision has not resolved all controversies, and while many astronomers have accepted it, some planetary scientists have rejected it outright, proposing a geophysical or similar definition instead.

    © Copyright Original Source

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  • NorrinRadd
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    Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

    It was the CDC. They changed the definition from a medication that grants immunity to one that merely offers protection. The goal was explicitly to silence critics who pointed out, correctly, that mRNA shots didn't meet the CDC's definition of vaccine, so instead of fixing the vaccine, they simply changed the definition. See my post here.
    That was such a big middle finger, wagged in our faces. Just a shade more subtle than Jenuinely Psucky's flippant responses, or that feckless dingbat who laughed at the question about inflation.

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  • Mountain Man
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    Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post

    Here you go:
    https://justthenews.com/government/f...eater-scrutiny


    Reminds me of how one of the government organizations (CDC I think) rewrote the definition of vaccines.
    It was the CDC. They changed the definition from a medication that grants immunity to one that merely offers protection. The goal was explicitly to silence critics who pointed out, correctly, that mRNA shots didn't meet the CDC's definition of vaccine, so instead of fixing the vaccine, they simply changed the definition. See my post here.

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  • Gondwanaland
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    Originally posted by Sparko View Post
    does anyone have the before and after definition of "gain of function" research that they changed on the NIH website?
    Here you go:
    https://justthenews.com/government/f...eater-scrutiny


    Reminds me of how one of the government organizations (CDC I think) rewrote the definition of vaccines.

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  • Cow Poke
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    Originally posted by Sparko View Post
    does anyone have the before and after definition of "gain of function" research that they changed on the NIH website?
    I though you were our resident expert on the wayback web.

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  • Sparko
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    does anyone have the before and after definition of "gain of function" research that they changed on the NIH website?

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  • Cow Poke
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    Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
    It seems that those actually conducting the research were under no illusions about exactly what they were doing.

    daszak-glee.jpg

    https://dailycaller.com/2021/11/03/f...uhan-covid-19/
    Damning.

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  • Mountain Man
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    It seems that those actually conducting the research were under no illusions about exactly what they were doing.

    daszak-glee.jpg

    https://dailycaller.com/2021/11/03/f...uhan-covid-19/

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  • Ronson
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    Did this exchange between Fauci and Paul take place before or after the FBI's "moderately confident" conclusion? If afterward, the Fauci isn't even paying attention to the news.

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  • Ronson
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    Originally posted by seanD View Post
    I got to tell ya, Fauci looks genuinely scared compared to their last encounter...

    Fauci wants to keep his paycheck and/or reputation. The guy is 80 years old. He needs to step down.

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