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  • #31
    Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

    Facts to liberals are like kryptonite to Superman.

    You are acting like I don't know about or in some way challenged those side effects, but I didn't challenge them at all. I simply pointed out that those do not appear to be the side effects you are talking about. But then again, I suppose it is possible you are talking about the well known side effects as if they are some mystery or unknown factor. I just was assuming you at the very least knew better than that and therefore were referring to some other set of side effects not already well documented ( AFAICT as did most of the others responding to you).
    My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

    If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

    This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post

      Because you asked for them.
      No - I asked for documentation of these mystery long term side effects MM appears to be referring to.
      My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

      If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

      This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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      • #33
        Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post

        No - I asked for documentation of these mystery long term side effects MM appears to be referring to.
        Are these not side effects? Are some of them not potentially long term?
        That's what
        - She

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        - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

        I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
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        • #34
          Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post

          Are these not side effects? Are some of them not potentially long term?
          I was asking for the ones MM was referring to. I already know about the ones you listed. Thanks for trying to help.
          My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

          If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

          This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post

            Just listing the side effects and FDA warnings.
            No you weren’t. As a Christian, you know the importance of CONTEXT. The context wasn’t the well-known minor side effects of vaccination but major side effects that MM insists are being ignored by MSM.

            I was gonna post the side effects of circumcision—a much more barbaric practice than vaccination—but changed my mind since you get the point.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by whag View Post

              No you weren’t. As a Christian, you know the importance of CONTEXT. The context wasn’t the well-known minor side effects of vaccination but major side effects that MM insists are being ignored by MSM.

              I was gonna post the side effects of circumcision—a much more barbaric practice than vaccination—but changed my mind since you get the point.
              Yes I was. I haven't read any of this thread. I saw Jim asked for side effects of the vaccine, so I posted them. Now kindly mind your own business.
              That's what
              - She

              Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
              - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

              I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
              - Stephen R. Donaldson

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post

                Yes I was. I haven't read any of this thread. I saw Jim asked for side effects of the vaccine, so I posted them. Now kindly mind your own business.
                And you did so having completely ignored the context, which was MM’s theory about much greater side effects than the liberal MSM is reporting.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by whag View Post

                  And you did so having completely ignored the context, which was MM’s theory about much greater side effects than the liberal MSM is reporting.
                  Yep. I didn't address MM at all. Jim already thanked me for the effort.
                  That's what
                  - She

                  Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                  - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                  I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                  - Stephen R. Donaldson

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post

                    Yep. I didn't address MM at all. Jim already thanked me for the effort.
                    Jim was being sarcastic since your post ignored the context. Everyone knows the minor side effects of vaccination, but the context here is MM’s conspiracy theory about major side effects ignored by liberal MSM.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by whag View Post

                      Jim was being sarcastic since your post ignored the context. Everyone knows the minor side effects of vaccination, but the context here is MM’s conspiracy theory about major side effects ignored by liberal MSM.
                      Just goes to show me good deeds don't go unpunished.
                      That's what
                      - She

                      Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                      - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                      I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                      - Stephen R. Donaldson

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post

                        Just goes to show me good deeds don't go unpunished.
                        Always says the one who fancies himself the martyr.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by whag View Post

                          Jim was being sarcastic since your post ignored the context. Everyone knows the minor side effects of vaccination, but the context here is MM’s conspiracy theory about major side effects ignored by liberal MSM.
                          No, not everyone knows the side-effects. Most know that there *are* potential side-effects, but many don't know what they are.

                          Not everyone would consider all those listed side-effects to be "minor."
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by NorrinRadd View Post
                            No, not everyone knows the side-effects. Most know that there *are* potential side-effects, but many don't know what they are.

                            Not everyone would consider all those listed side-effects to be "minor."
                            Compared to actually getting covid, the side effects of the vaccine are so tiny as to not be worth talking about.

                            And the most serious side effect of the vaccine (heart inflammation) is way worse in people who actually get covid. This is hardly surprising as it is a common response to the body fighting serious disease, so to the extent that the vaccine looks a bit like covid to the body, you tend to get some of the effects you would get with covid to a much smaller extent.

                            The simple fact that the outcomes from covid are so, so, much worse than the outcomes from the vaccine, are why it's worth everyone getting vaccinated.
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                            • #44
                              Meanwhile, the FDA is saying you can you mix and match vaccines regardless of brand.

                              They're also saying that those who got their "one and done" J&J jab now need a booster if it has been more than two-months.

                              https://theconservativetreehouse.com...a-jab-any-jab/

                              Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                              But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                              Than a fool in the eyes of God


                              From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                              • #45
                                An insightful post someone made in response to the above link:

                                I don’t get it. If there are, say, three types of jabs available, Moderna, Pfizer and JJ, which one works best, which is safest, which is worst? Where can I, the consumer, find this info? I research mutual funds, for example, where one typically performs better than two others and the data is publicly available. I make an informed decision. Where is the official efficacy and safety data for these vaccines? A lot of data should be available by now. I’m supposed to pick one blindly? It doesn’t matter which one I pick? Really?

                                No thanks.

                                Mixing and matching vaccines is also going to make for a legal circus later when people want to sue for any complications they suffer from the vaccines. But when you were injected with multiple brands, who do you take to court? Pfizer will say it's J&J and Moderna's fault; J&J will say it's Moderna and Pfizer's fault; Moderna will say it's Pfizer and J&J's fault, Pfizer, J&J, and Moderna will say it's the FDA's fault. What a mess.
                                Last edited by Mountain Man; 10-22-2021, 07:44 AM.
                                Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                                But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                                Than a fool in the eyes of God


                                From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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