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This keeps getting back to Baldwin and his actions.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostNews from this morning:
Any person handling a gun - whether he/she is an actor, and extra, a food vender, an armorer.... needs to be trained to check the weapon when RECEIVING it.
If they cannot learn how to determine the condition of a weapon when they receive it, they should not be allowed to handle it at all.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
This is such a tragic NEEDLESS problem.
Any person handling a gun - whether he/she is an actor, and extra, a food vender, an armorer.... needs to be trained to check the weapon when RECEIVING it.
If they cannot learn how to determine the condition of a weapon when they receive it, they should not be allowed to handle it at all.
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
From what I have read, this movie was very lax in their safety protocols. A low budget movie with lots of problems.
If I handed you a firearm, I would hand it to you...A) with the cylinder open if it was a revolver (showing you it was loaded or not)
2) with the slide locked back and the magazine outside the weapon if it was a semi-auto
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
Sounds so - but I guess I was taught at an early age to NEVER accept "an unloaded weapon" from somebody "on their word" - ALWAYS check for yourself.
If I handed you a firearm, I would hand it to you...A) with the cylinder open if it was a revolver (showing you it was loaded or not)
2) with the slide locked back and the magazine outside the weapon if it was a semi-auto
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostOne of the lessons I learned from my father is that any firearm you pick up is loaded. Not just treat it as if it were loaded. It IS loaded ... until you have personally verified then and there that it isn't.
Of course, if BOTH were serious about gun safety, that's best.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI don't know why this is so difficult for people -- you can't accidentally unshoot somebody. The person HANDLING the weapon is the one responsible for its safe handling - not just the person handing it to them.
Of course, if BOTH were serious about gun safety, that's best.
One gun control law I could support is a mandatory basic safety course the first time someone buys a firearm.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
Sounds so - but I guess I was taught at an early age to NEVER accept "an unloaded weapon" from somebody "on their word" - ALWAYS check for yourself.
If I handed you a firearm, I would hand it to you...A) with the cylinder open if it was a revolver (showing you it was loaded or not)
2) with the slide locked back and the magazine outside the weapon if it was a semi-auto
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I have read in other forums that the rules for handling guns (weather fake guns or real guns with blanks) are different than the usual rules for safe gun handling - eg checking the weapon is safe doesn't apply. The one person actually responsible for making sure the gun is loaded/unloaded appropriately for the scene is the Armorer. The gun is handed to the actor just before shooting the scene and taken from the actor as soon as the scene ends. In fact the actor is prohibited from doing anything to the gun (including clearing the gun or checking the type of ammo) that is not called for in the script. In my understanding this was set up so there is one point of failure (the armorer) rather than many points (the actors) in order to make sets safer.
Now as one of the producers, AB has the responsibility to hire properly trained armorers but AB the actor doesn't bear culpability in this instance.
Just a different perspective on this.We know J6 wasn’t peaceful because they didn’t set the building on fire.
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Looks like the director, Joel Souza, told police that the armorer, Hannah Gutierrez Reed, handed the pistol to the assistant director, who in turn handed it to Baldwin telling him that it is a "cold gun" (not loaded with live rounds). Moreover the pistol was left unattended when everyone went to take a meal break and Souza isn't sure if it was rechecked.
Search warrant reveals grim details of 'Rust' shooting and Halyna Hutchins' final minutes
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostLooks like the director, Joel Souza, told police that the armorer, Hannah Gutierrez Reed, handed the pistol to the assistant director, who in turn handed it to Baldwin telling him that it is a "cold gun" (not loaded with live rounds). Moreover the pistol was left unattended when everyone went to take a meal break and Souza isn't sure if it was rechecked.
Search warrant reveals grim details of 'Rust' shooting and Halyna Hutchins' final minutes
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
A "cold gun" would be unloaded, not even loaded with blanks. Which should be easy to check b y looking at the cylinder.We know J6 wasn’t peaceful because they didn’t set the building on fire.
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Originally posted by alaskazimm View Post
But if my link above is correct an actor can't even do that unless called for in the script.
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