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    Aman Khalili reaches the USA with his family

    I reckon that, like the film 'The Killing Fields', there could be a film made about this one day.

    This guy needed his family to be rescued from Afghanistan but for various reasons they could not reach safety, so he took his loved ones 600 miles across Afghanistan to reach Pakistan, and then on to the USA. There must be many thousands of families that deserve asylum in the West ... this is one story that has ended in safety. It reminds me of the true story of Journalist Dith Pran who could not be rescued from the Cambodian Border after Vietnam (although his family were evacuated), who trekked across Cambodia and somehow survived the killing fields of the Kmer Rouge to reach Thailand.

    May his comrades all reach safety as well. Here's one report of many..........

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    https://nypost.com/2021/10/11/interp...istan-escapes/

    An Afghan interpreter who helped in the rescue of then-Sen. Joe Biden in 2008 from a valley in Afghanistan has finally escaped from the Taliban-controlled country after being left behind in initial US evacuations.
    Aman Khalili, who was previously identified by his official first name, Mohammed, for security reasons, left Afghanistan and crossed into Pakistan with his family last week, according to the Wall Street Journal.
    Khalili and his family spent weeks in hiding following the end of the US troop withdrawal and initial evacuation efforts in August.
    While the US had been able to evacuate thousands from the country before the deadline, hundreds of Americans and allies remain in Afghanistan, which is now under the rule of the Taliban.

    At the end of August, Khalili made a direct appeal to the president, asking Biden to save him and his family.
    “Hello Mr. President: Save me and my family,” he said. “Don’t forget me here.”
    Over the past six weeks, US veterans worked alongside former Afghan soldiers and Pakistani allies to get Khalili and his family out. They traveled over 600 miles across Afghanistan to escape.
    Brian Genthe, a combat veteran who worked with Khalili in Afghanistan, called the interpreter “a blessing.”
    “Aman helped keep me and other Americans safe while we were fighting in Afghanistan, and we wanted to return the favor,” he said.


  • #2
    That harrowing ordeal could -- SHOULD -- have been avoided if we had someone in the Oval Office who is at least halfway competent.

    I'm always still in trouble again

    "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
    "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
    "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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    • #3
      Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
      That harrowing ordeal could -- SHOULD -- have been avoided if we had someone in the Oval Office who is at least halfway competent.
      And if he kept his promises to not leave until everyone else was out.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Sparko View Post

        And if he kept his promises to not leave until everyone else was out.
        Obviously Khalili didn't really want to leave. That, at least, was the official explanation from the White House for why so many were abandoned to their fate -- including U.S. citizens.

        I'm always still in trouble again

        "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
        "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
        "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Sparko View Post

          And if he kept his promises to not leave until everyone else was out.
          I don't think it's a political 'thing'. The other Western Nations in Afghanistan cleared off without extracting their past comrades either. And I have heard and read that some total berk in some UK government office somehow scattered the real names and addresses of hundreds of interpreters and support workers over the jolly old internet. You just couldn't make it up.

          But our Boris, or Germany's Merkel, or your Biden...etc ? Nah......

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          • #6
            Originally posted by eider View Post

            I don't think it's a political 'thing'. The other Western Nations in Afghanistan cleared off without extracting their past comrades either. And I have heard and read that some total berk in some government office somehow scattered the real names and addresses of hundreds of interpreters and support workers over the jolly old internet. You just couldn't make it up.

            But our Boris, or Germany's Merkel, or your Biden...etc ? Nah......
            The other countries weren't informed that we were bugging out which is why several had to suddenly send troops in to extract their people. All the while old Joe was saying we can't do that.

            And we literally, actually handed over a list to the Taliban that even included detailed descriptions. No need for putting it on the internet.

            I'm always still in trouble again

            "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
            "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
            "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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            • #7
              Originally posted by eider View Post

              I don't think it's a political 'thing'. The other Western Nations in Afghanistan cleared off without extracting their past comrades either. And I have heard and read that some total berk in some UK government office somehow scattered the real names and addresses of hundreds of interpreters and support workers over the jolly old internet. You just couldn't make it up.

              But our Boris, or Germany's Merkel, or your Biden...etc ? Nah......
              No, two of our missionary families were rescued by German soldiers, and they were gathering up others while US soldiers were forbidden from leaving the immediate area of the airport.
              (I know for a fact that some of our soldiers willfully disobeyed orders, and rounded up some Americans and loyal Afghanis, also)
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                No, two of our missionary families were rescued by German soldiers, and they were gathering up others while US soldiers were forbidden from leaving the immediate area of the airport.
                (I know for a fact that some of our soldiers willfully disobeyed orders, and rounded up some Americans and loyal Afghanis, also)
                Which goes to show that in the evacuations and shambles of defeats, or withdrawals, or retreats, leaders make the best decisions they can in the heat of the moments, generals can fail in some as well. It's only those people whose careless, or recklessness, or lawlessness during such times should be criticised or exposed.

                President Biden didn't make a mess of Afghanistan, The leaders who raced us all in there 20 years ago are to blame for most of this.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by eider View Post

                  Which goes to show that in the evacuations and shambles of defeats, or withdrawals, or retreats, leaders make the best decisions they can in the heat of the moments, generals can fail in some as well. It's only those people whose careless, or recklessness, or lawlessness during such times should be criticised or exposed.

                  President Biden didn't make a mess of Afghanistan, The leaders who raced us all in there 20 years ago are to blame for most of this.
                  That doesn't show any of it.

                  You can argue about all sorts of initial faults, but that doesn't excuse someone coming up with a horrible plan to get out of it. That's like saying, "I never should've been in an arranged marriage Ethel to begin with, so it's my parents fault when I killed her to end the marriage"
                  Last edited by CivilDiscourse; 10-13-2021, 05:32 AM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by eider View Post

                    Which goes to show that in the evacuations and shambles of defeats, or withdrawals, or retreats, leaders make the best decisions they can in the heat of the moments, generals can fail in some as well. It's only those people whose careless, or recklessness, or lawlessness during such times should be criticised or exposed.

                    President Biden didn't make a mess of Afghanistan, The leaders who raced us all in there 20 years ago are to blame for most of this.
                    Nobody except maybe the demented duffer himself thinks that anything but the best decisions were made. They had months to plan this out and they fumbled it in a way that makes the Keystone Kops look like the picture of efficient organization. It was a colossal cluster foul up that there was no excuse for. I mean, number one, you NEVER withdrawal your troops before you get the civilians out first. And that was just the first of a long line of utterly boneheaded decisions. I mean the odds are that at least some of the decisions should have been good calls or at least not mindless screw ups. But it was literally one after another.

                    But you're right, old Joe didn't make the mess... he just did the equivalent of burning an entire city down trying to put out a fire in a single house.

                    I'm always still in trouble again

                    "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                    "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                    "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by eider View Post
                      Which goes to show that in the evacuations and shambles of defeats, or withdrawals, or retreats, leaders make the best decisions they can in the heat of the moments, generals can fail in some as well. It's only those people whose careless, or recklessness, or lawlessness during such times should be criticised or exposed.
                      Yeah, when Biden royally screwed things up, others rushed in to try to salvage what they could of the situation, including trying to save lives.

                      President Biden didn't make a mess of Afghanistan,
                      Actually, yes, he did.

                      The leaders who raced us all in there 20 years ago are to blame for most of this.
                      And I was against that then, and still am.

                      Though, Biden did not "make a mess of Afghanistan" originally, he made a ROYAL mess of the exit, and left American citizens, Afghani loyalists, and many others behind to pay the price.
                      Biden should be in a mental hospital, not the commander of our military. He is a screw-up. Even Obama made that observation.
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                        Yeah, when Biden royally screwed things up, others rushed in to try to salvage what they could of the situation, including trying to save lives.



                        Actually, yes, he did.



                        And I was against that then, and still am.

                        Though, Biden did not "make a mess of Afghanistan" originally, he made a ROYAL mess of the exit, and left American citizens, Afghani loyalists, and many others behind to pay the price.
                        Biden should be in a mental hospital, not the commander of our military. He is a screw-up. Even Obama made that observation.

                        I'm always still in trouble again

                        "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                        "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                        "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

                          That doesn't show any of it.

                          You can argue about all sorts of initial faults, but that doesn't excuse someone coming up with a horrible plan to get out of it. That's like saying, "I never should've been in an arranged marriage Ethel to begin with, so it's my parents fault when I killed her to end the marriage"
                          Somehow your analogies just never work.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by eider View Post

                            Somehow your analogies just never work.
                            Never work? Or you don't like them and therefore reject them.

                            CD does a pretty good job with analogies.

                            I'm always still in trouble again

                            "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                            "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                            "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                              Never work? Or you don't like them and therefore reject them.

                              CD does a pretty good job with analogies.
                              Whatever.......
                              At least families such as Aman Khalili's are getting clear.
                              The USA has been negotiating or talking with the Taliban, trying to arrange safe transport out for any remaining US citizens and Westerners who want to leave, and for those who assisted Western forces before the end.

                              I'm interested to see or hear how those talks went and if there was any success.

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