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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
A) I was never for the war in Afghanistan in the first place
2) I do not approve of the way the war was prosecuted, and many of the actions done by our military.
C) I am not "an uncivilized group"
4) I will loudly and clearly condemn the brutal killing and hanging of people, and I'll do so with clean hands.
The lowlife scumbag terrorists who call themselves "Taliban" are not agents of justice - they are agents of terror.
One admirable thing about the "West" is that they admit wrongdoing---even if they do nothing about it....it is still better than ignoring/dismissing wrongdoing.....
U said "I will loudly and clearly condemn the brutal killing and hanging of people, and I'll do so with clean hands."
In the U.S.---around 2,000 to 6,000 racial lynching happened between 1865 to 1950
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart...ion-180975120/
No doubt these must be equally condemned as brutal terrorism ....right?
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
You approve of the 'new' (revived) "justice system" in Afghanistan?
I was writing about US citizens in Afghanistan:- thus:-
Yes.
But they won't kidnap or burgle or steal, or drink alcohol, or take drugs, so they'll be lawful.
While they are there they just need to follow the laws of that land, in that land.
Is there any part of that which you disagree with?
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostI guess that means you approve of the Islamic practice of taking gay men up to the top of minarets and pushing them off.
I mean, after all, "they just need to follow the laws of that land, in that land."
I was writing about US citizens, still in Afghanistan.
I wrote:-
Yes.
But they won't kidnap or burgle or steal, or drink alcohol, or take drugs, so they'll be lawful.
While they are there they just need to follow the laws of that land, in that land.
....or would you advise something different to foreigners in strange lands?
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostWe are to take the word of men who would bring dead bodies, and distribute them around the village to "send a message" that "criminals" are not safe?
I certainly would.
You wouldn't test them while there, would you?
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
Without an investigation? And hanging the bodies in the public square?
Remember, this is the "new and improved" Taliban. That's the whole point - there's no difference between these zealots and the ones who were in power 20 years ago.
Do you want to do what was done 20 years ago?
Iranian Shi'ite Law from Quran and Sunni Law from Quran and the Hadiths, these are the laws of Indonesia, most of the Middle Eastern countries, Pakistan, Afghanistan and other places. Just don't go to these countries unless prepared to follow their laws to the letter. Where UK Nationals are contracted to work in these countries, special isolated encampments are established where foreign nationals stay and can follow their own laws. But outside.......... don't bust the laws!
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Originally posted by siam View Post
Good to know your stance. .....and I agree
One admirable thing about the "West" is that they admit wrongdoing---even if they do nothing about it....it is still better than ignoring/dismissing wrongdoing.....
U said "I will loudly and clearly condemn the brutal killing and hanging of people, and I'll do so with clean hands."
In the U.S.---around 2,000 to 6,000 racial lynching happened between 1865 to 1950
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart...ion-180975120/
No doubt these must be equally condemned as brutal terrorism ....right?
Note, this is not an apology for lynching nor a statement in support of it -- it should go without saying that it was a horrible, unacceptable practice. This is about accuracy.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by eider View Post
Comprehension much?
I was writing about US citizens, still in Afghanistan.
I wrote:-
Yes.
But they won't kidnap or burgle or steal, or drink alcohol, or take drugs, so they'll be lawful.
While they are there they just need to follow the laws of that land, in that land.
....or would you advise something different to foreigners in strange lands?
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by eider View PostYes.
Much of Islamic Laws are straight out of the Laws of Moses.
Muhammad was quyite clear about that, I think.
From the "Assessment":
Christians who condemn ISIS-style beheadings, sexual exploitation of women, and oppression of religious minorities are not being hypocrites, for the similarities between the Law of Moses and the Law of Muhammad are superficial
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by siam View Post
Good to know your stance. .....and I agree
One admirable thing about the "West" is that they admit wrongdoing---even if they do nothing about it....it is still better than ignoring/dismissing wrongdoing.....
U said "I will loudly and clearly condemn the brutal killing and hanging of people, and I'll do so with clean hands."
In the U.S.---around 2,000 to 6,000 racial lynching happened between 1865 to 1950
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart...ion-180975120/
No doubt these must be equally condemned as brutal terrorism ....right?
2) Absolutely, I condemn such hatred and murder, loudly and clearly
None of that excuses what is happening in Afghanistan today.
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by eider View Post
No.
I was writing about US citizens in Afghanistan:- thus:-
Yes.
But they won't kidnap or burgle or steal, or drink alcohol, or take drugs, so they'll be lawful.
While they are there they just need to follow the laws of that land, in that land.
Is there any part of that which you disagree with?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by eider View Post
If you lived there, in that land, would you take their words about what happens to convicts in that land?
I certainly would.
You wouldn't test them while there, would you?
It sounds like you're justifying the brutality and lack of due process by saying, in effect, "well, at least the trains run on time".The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by eider View Post
Comprehension much?
I was writing about US citizens, still in Afghanistan.
I wrote:-
Yes.
But they won't kidnap or burgle or steal, or drink alcohol, or take drugs, so they'll be lawful.
While they are there they just need to follow the laws of that land, in that land.
....or would you advise something different to foreigners in strange lands?
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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