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Taliban Hangs Four Bodies In Public Square in Western Afghanistan

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  • #16
    AP report....

    KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) — The Taliban hanged a dead body from a crane parked in a city square in Afghanistan on Saturday in a gruesome display that signaled the hard-line movement’s return to some of its brutal tactics of the past.

    Taliban officials initially brought four bodies to the central square in the western city of Herat, then moved three of them to other parts of the city for public display, said Wazir Ahmad Seddiqi, who runs a pharmacy on the edge of the square.

    Taliban officials announced that the four were caught taking part in a kidnapping earlier Saturday and were killed by police, Seddiqi said. Ziaulhaq Jalali, a Taliban-appointed district police chief in Herat, said later that Taliban members rescued a father and son who had been abducted by four kidnappers after an exchange of gunfire. He said a Taliban fighter and a civilian were wounded by the kidnappers, and that the kidnappers were killed in crossfire.


    So the same guys that hang the bodies are the ones who assure us that all is well - they were caught trying to kidnap a father and son. And "the kidnappers were killed in the crossfire"? How convenient.

    An Associated Press video showed crowds gathering around the crane and peering up at the body as some men chanted.

    “The aim of this action is to alert all criminals that they are not safe,” a Taliban commander who did not identify himself told the AP in an on-camera interview conducted in the square.


    We are to take the word of men who would bring dead bodies, and distribute them around the village to "send a message" that "criminals" are not safe?
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

      The thread is about "a sign that the group is returning to some of its harsh punishments of the past".

      Hanging bodies in a public square is certainly barbaric. Should we trust the "testimony" of such thugs?
      Let's qualify - if it is true... If they really kidnapped and tortured... I have no problem with the death penalty in such cases.
      Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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      • #18
        All in all, I have a feeling those were actually violent criminals they hung out like that. Every society has more than their fair share of them so there would be no need to fake it.

        I'm always still in trouble again

        "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
        "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
        "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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        • #19
          Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
          All in all, I have a feeling those were actually violent criminals they hung out like that. Every society has more than their fair share of them so there would be no need to fake it.
          I think God had Moses do the same thing... I don't see anything inherently immoral about it - if they were guilty...
          Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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          • #20
            Originally posted by seer View Post

            Let's qualify - if it is true... If they really kidnapped and tortured... I have no problem with the death penalty in such cases.
            Without an investigation? And hanging the bodies in the public square?

            Remember, this is the "new and improved" Taliban. That's the whole point - there's no difference between these zealots and the ones who were in power 20 years ago.
            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
              All in all, I have a feeling those were actually violent criminals they hung out like that. Every society has more than their fair share of them so there would be no need to fake it.
              I'd love to hear from the father and son - for all we know, it may have been Afghanis trying to help them escape Afghanistan. We really have no way of knowing at this point.
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                Without an investigation? And hanging the bodies in the public square?

                Remember, this is the "new and improved" Taliban. That's the whole point - there's no difference between these zealots and the ones who were in power 20 years ago.
                The only question is - were they guilty. IF they were (and we don't know) then I don't see the problem.

                Numbers 25:

                While Israel lived in Shittim, the people began to whore with the daughters of Moab. 2 These invited the people to the sacrifices of their gods, and the people ate and bowed down to their gods. 3 So Israel yoked himself to Baal of Peor. And the anger of the Lord was kindled against Israel. 4 And the Lord said to Moses, “Take all the chiefs of the people and hang them in the sun before the Lord, that the fierce anger of the Lord may turn away from Israel.” 5 And Moses said to the judges of Israel, “Each of you kill those of his men who have yoked themselves to Baal of Peor.”
                Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                • #23
                  Here's my concern... ABC News....

                  Four bodies were hung in the heart of the Afghan city of Herat in a grim sign that the Taliban are reinstating its hard-line rule even as they are trying to project a more moderate image.

                  Mulwi Shir Ahmad Ammar, the city's deputy governor, said the four men had kidnapped a local trader and his son Saturday morning and had intended to take them out of the city, about 500 miles west of the capital, Kabul.

                  They were killed during an exchange of gunfire that left one Taliban fighter wounded, he said, adding that their bodies were strung up "in order to be a life lesson for other kidnappers."

                  Authorities had set up roadblocks and checkpoints across the city to catch them, he said. NBC News was not able to independently verify his claims.


                  This sounds very much like the way our NGOs report the Taliban dealing with anybody who tries to aid Afghanis who wish to escape the country. We only have the Taliban's version of this.
                  The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                    Without an investigation? And hanging the bodies in the public square?

                    Remember, this is the "new and improved" Taliban. That's the whole point - there's no difference between these zealots and the ones who were in power 20 years ago.
                    Keep in mind that for the "new and improved" Taliban this might mean that there will no longer be public executions and the like.

                    I'm always still in trouble again

                    "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                    "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                    "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                      Keep in mind that for the "new and improved" Taliban this might mean that there will no longer be public executions and the like.
                      BBC just 3 days ago...

                      Afghanistan: Executions will return, says senior Taliban official

                      The Taliban's notorious former head of religious police has said extreme punishments such as executions and amputations will resume in Afghanistan.
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                        BBC just 3 days ago...

                        Afghanistan: Executions will return, says senior Taliban official

                        The Taliban's notorious former head of religious police has said extreme punishments such as executions and amputations will resume in Afghanistan.
                        Serious question: why do you think all the major MSM networks are covering this since it reflects badly on Biden? Did MSM suddenly become honest journalism at the expense of Biden?

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by seanD View Post

                          Serious question: why do you think all the major MSM networks are covering this since it reflects badly on Biden? Did MSM suddenly become honest journalism at the expense of Biden?
                          I don't think so - I think it's because there are still lots of people in Afghanistan who can communicated with the outside world, and this falls under the category of "if it bleeds, it leads".

                          They can't NOT cover it, for both reasons, I'd think.
                          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                          • #28
                            So no worse than Texas?
                            "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                            "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                            "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                              So no worse than Texas?
                              We can always count on you to say something really really birdbrained stupid.
                              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                                We can always count on you to say something really really birdbrained stupid.
                                Just call it a post-birth abortion and star would support it.

                                I'm always still in trouble again

                                "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                                "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                                "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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