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    Clearly when Trump says "Jump" Gov. Abbott jumps!

    Given that, as the article points out, no serious allegations exist that the Texas election was flawed, why do this? It is clearly nothing but slavish obedience to the "Master" by Abbott and of course a sop to the base given that the mid-terms are only some thirteen months away.

    If Republicans continue this ruse across the entire nation they should just about have completed the exercise in time for the next Presidential elections.



    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/23/u...ion-audit.html

    Eight and a half hours after former President Donald J. Trump made a public demand for Gov. Greg Abbott of Texas to back legislation to create a “forensic audit of the 2020 election,” the Texas secretary of state’s office announced a “comprehensive forensic audit” of the results from four of the state’s largest counties.

    The quick response by state officials in Texas, which Mr. Trump carried last year by more than five percentage points, was the latest example of the former president’s enduring influence over the Republican Party, particularly when it comes to his efforts to undermine public confidence in the legitimacy of his loss last year to President Biden.

    “Governor Abbott, we need a ‘Forensic Audit of the 2020 Election,’” Mr. Trump said in a midday open letter to Mr. Abbott. “Texans know voting fraud occurred in some of their counties.”

    Texas is currently without a secretary of state, after the May retirement of Ruth Ruggero Hughs. Mr. Abbott, a Republican, has yet to appoint a successor.

    Nevertheless, the office released a two-sentence statement late Thursday stating that it would examine ballots from the 2020 election in Collin, Dallas, Harris and Tarrant Counties. The news release called those counties the “two largest Democrat counties and two largest Republican counties” in the state, but of the four, only Collin County backed Mr. Trump against Mr. Biden in the 2020 election. The statement said the audit process had already begun.

    Since Arizona Republicans began a review of more than 2 million ballots in Maricopa County, Trump-aligned Republicans across the country have sought to replicate the effort. In Wisconsin, a former State Supreme Court justice is investigating the election results and said Monday that an audit of ballots is possible. Pennsylvania Republicans last week sought driver’s license data and Social Security numbers for every voter in the state as part of an inquiry into the 2020 election there.

    The various reviews have not uncovered any significant evidence of fraud or impropriety in the vote counting. But they have created a new kind of security risk as third parties gain access to voting equipment and raised questions about the use of public resources to investigate Republican conspiracy theories.

    To date, there have been no serious allegations that the Texas election was flawed.

    Texas Democrats called the audit the latest attempt by Mr. Abbott and the state’s Republicans to cater to Mr. Trump.

    “This is all an organized effort to overturn the will of the people in an effort to fuel the ‘Big Lie’ and stroke Trump’s ego,” said Gilberto Hinojosa, the chairman of the Texas Democratic Party.






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    The things that you're liable
    To read in the Bible
    It ain't necessarily so
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  • #2
    Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post



    Clearly when Trump says "Jump" Gov. Abbott jumps!

    Given that, as the article points out, no serious allegations exist that the Texas election was flawed, why do this? It is clearly nothing but slavish obedience to the "Master" by Abbott and of course a sop to the base given that the mid-terms are only some thirteen months away.

    If Republicans continue this ruse across the entire nation they should just about have completed the exercise in time for the next Presidential elections.



    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/23/u...ion-audit.html

    Eight and a half hours after former President Donald J. Trump made a public demand for Gov. Greg Abbott of Texas to back legislation to create a “forensic audit of the 2020 election,” the Texas secretary of state’s office announced a “comprehensive forensic audit” of the results from four of the state’s largest counties.

    The quick response by state officials in Texas, which Mr. Trump carried last year by more than five percentage points, was the latest example of the former president’s enduring influence over the Republican Party, particularly when it comes to his efforts to undermine public confidence in the legitimacy of his loss last year to President Biden.

    “Governor Abbott, we need a ‘Forensic Audit of the 2020 Election,’” Mr. Trump said in a midday open letter to Mr. Abbott. “Texans know voting fraud occurred in some of their counties.”

    Texas is currently without a secretary of state, after the May retirement of Ruth Ruggero Hughs. Mr. Abbott, a Republican, has yet to appoint a successor.

    Nevertheless, the office released a two-sentence statement late Thursday stating that it would examine ballots from the 2020 election in Collin, Dallas, Harris and Tarrant Counties. The news release called those counties the “two largest Democrat counties and two largest Republican counties” in the state, but of the four, only Collin County backed Mr. Trump against Mr. Biden in the 2020 election. The statement said the audit process had already begun.

    Since Arizona Republicans began a review of more than 2 million ballots in Maricopa County, Trump-aligned Republicans across the country have sought to replicate the effort. In Wisconsin, a former State Supreme Court justice is investigating the election results and said Monday that an audit of ballots is possible. Pennsylvania Republicans last week sought driver’s license data and Social Security numbers for every voter in the state as part of an inquiry into the 2020 election there.

    The various reviews have not uncovered any significant evidence of fraud or impropriety in the vote counting. But they have created a new kind of security risk as third parties gain access to voting equipment and raised questions about the use of public resources to investigate Republican conspiracy theories.

    To date, there have been no serious allegations that the Texas election was flawed.

    Texas Democrats called the audit the latest attempt by Mr. Abbott and the state’s Republicans to cater to Mr. Trump.

    “This is all an organized effort to overturn the will of the people in an effort to fuel the ‘Big Lie’ and stroke Trump’s ego,” said Gilberto Hinojosa, the chairman of the Texas Democratic Party.





    The democrats can take thier toys and leave the state if they want. Worked well earlier this year.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post



      Clearly when Trump says "Jump" Gov. Abbott jumps!

      Given that, as the article points out, no serious allegations exist that the Texas election was flawed, why do this? It is clearly nothing but slavish obedience to the "Master" by Abbott and of course a sop to the base given that the mid-terms are only some thirteen months away.

      If Republicans continue this ruse across the entire nation they should just about have completed the exercise in time for the next Presidential elections.



      https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/23/u...ion-audit.html

      Eight and a half hours after former President Donald J. Trump made a public demand for Gov. Greg Abbott of Texas to back legislation to create a “forensic audit of the 2020 election,” the Texas secretary of state’s office announced a “comprehensive forensic audit” of the results from four of the state’s largest counties.

      The quick response by state officials in Texas, which Mr. Trump carried last year by more than five percentage points, was the latest example of the former president’s enduring influence over the Republican Party, particularly when it comes to his efforts to undermine public confidence in the legitimacy of his loss last year to President Biden.

      “Governor Abbott, we need a ‘Forensic Audit of the 2020 Election,’” Mr. Trump said in a midday open letter to Mr. Abbott. “Texans know voting fraud occurred in some of their counties.”

      Texas is currently without a secretary of state, after the May retirement of Ruth Ruggero Hughs. Mr. Abbott, a Republican, has yet to appoint a successor.

      Nevertheless, the office released a two-sentence statement late Thursday stating that it would examine ballots from the 2020 election in Collin, Dallas, Harris and Tarrant Counties. The news release called those counties the “two largest Democrat counties and two largest Republican counties” in the state, but of the four, only Collin County backed Mr. Trump against Mr. Biden in the 2020 election. The statement said the audit process had already begun.

      Since Arizona Republicans began a review of more than 2 million ballots in Maricopa County, Trump-aligned Republicans across the country have sought to replicate the effort. In Wisconsin, a former State Supreme Court justice is investigating the election results and said Monday that an audit of ballots is possible. Pennsylvania Republicans last week sought driver’s license data and Social Security numbers for every voter in the state as part of an inquiry into the 2020 election there.

      The various reviews have not uncovered any significant evidence of fraud or impropriety in the vote counting. But they have created a new kind of security risk as third parties gain access to voting equipment and raised questions about the use of public resources to investigate Republican conspiracy theories.

      To date, there have been no serious allegations that the Texas election was flawed.

      Texas Democrats called the audit the latest attempt by Mr. Abbott and the state’s Republicans to cater to Mr. Trump.

      “This is all an organized effort to overturn the will of the people in an effort to fuel the ‘Big Lie’ and stroke Trump’s ego,” said Gilberto Hinojosa, the chairman of the Texas Democratic Party.





      More about making sure he doesn't have opposition in his own party when he seeks re-election or another position.

      I'm always still in trouble again

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      • #4
        Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
        More about making sure he doesn't have opposition in his own party when he seeks re-election or another position.
        Really? By giving the impression he is Trump's trained poodle?
        "It ain't necessarily so
        The things that you're liable
        To read in the Bible
        It ain't necessarily so
        ."

        Sportin' Life
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        • #5
          *yawn*

          More TDS. If there is nothing to find, why are the democrats worried about it? The findings should prove Trump wrong and let the dems say "we told you so"


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          • #6
            Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

            Really? By giving the impression he is Trump's trained poodle?
            By not giving a Republican still enamored with Trump a reason to run against him in the primaries.

            I'm always still in trouble again

            "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
            "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
            "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Sparko View Post
              *yawn*

              More TDS. If there is nothing to find, why are the democrats worried about it? The findings should prove Trump wrong and let the dems say "we told you so"
              Yup. The Democrats keep acting like they've got something to hide and are actually afraid of what will be uncovered. They should welcome another chance to laugh at Trump

              I'm always still in trouble again

              "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
              "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
              "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                *yawn*

                More TDS. If there is nothing to find, why are the democrats worried about it? The findings should prove Trump wrong and let the dems say "we told you so"
                I would suggest perhaps wasting public money? Unless I am wrong and this investigation is being financed entirely by donations from Republican party members and donors
                "It ain't necessarily so
                The things that you're liable
                To read in the Bible
                It ain't necessarily so
                ."

                Sportin' Life
                Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

                  I would suggest perhaps wasting public money? Unless I am wrong and this investigation is being financed entirely by donations from Republican party members and donors
                  You mean like impeaching a president you KNOW won't actually be convicted? That sort of wasted public money?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

                    You mean like impeaching a president you KNOW won't actually be convicted? That sort of wasted public money?
                    I think you in danger of attempting to derail this thread. The very fault for which you criticise me.
                    "It ain't necessarily so
                    The things that you're liable
                    To read in the Bible
                    It ain't necessarily so
                    ."

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
                      The democrats can take thier toys and leave the state if they want. Worked well earlier this year.
                      I think we'd even be willing to pay them to stay gone like we did this last round.
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
                        I would suggest perhaps wasting public money? Unless I am wrong and this investigation is being financed entirely by donations from Republican party members and donors
                        Yes, public money, from what I've read.

                        It is now being widely reported that the Arizona audit has confirmed that Biden won the state. And the audit INCREASED Biden's margin of victory. Perhaps Trump is so desperate for an audit victory that he ordered the Texas audit so that he can have an "audit victory" of sorts. Or, he is playing 4 or 5 dimensional chess and we just don't have the intellect to understand his brilliance. Trump does, after all, have a "very, very large brain", or so he says...
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post



                          Clearly when Trump says "Jump" Gov. Abbott jumps!

                          Given that, as the article points out, no serious allegations exist that the Texas election was flawed, why do this? It is clearly nothing but slavish obedience to the "Master" by Abbott and of course a sop to the base given that the mid-terms are only some thirteen months away.

                          If Republicans continue this ruse across the entire nation they should just about have completed the exercise in time for the next Presidential elections.



                          https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/23/u...ion-audit.html

                          Eight and a half hours after former President Donald J. Trump made a public demand for Gov. Greg Abbott of Texas to back legislation to create a “forensic audit of the 2020 election,” the Texas secretary of state’s office announced a “comprehensive forensic audit” of the results from four of the state’s largest counties.

                          The quick response by state officials in Texas, which Mr. Trump carried last year by more than five percentage points, was the latest example of the former president’s enduring influence over the Republican Party, particularly when it comes to his efforts to undermine public confidence in the legitimacy of his loss last year to President Biden.

                          “Governor Abbott, we need a ‘Forensic Audit of the 2020 Election,’” Mr. Trump said in a midday open letter to Mr. Abbott. “Texans know voting fraud occurred in some of their counties.”

                          Texas is currently without a secretary of state, after the May retirement of Ruth Ruggero Hughs. Mr. Abbott, a Republican, has yet to appoint a successor.

                          Nevertheless, the office released a two-sentence statement late Thursday stating that it would examine ballots from the 2020 election in Collin, Dallas, Harris and Tarrant Counties. The news release called those counties the “two largest Democrat counties and two largest Republican counties” in the state, but of the four, only Collin County backed Mr. Trump against Mr. Biden in the 2020 election. The statement said the audit process had already begun.

                          Since Arizona Republicans began a review of more than 2 million ballots in Maricopa County, Trump-aligned Republicans across the country have sought to replicate the effort. In Wisconsin, a former State Supreme Court justice is investigating the election results and said Monday that an audit of ballots is possible. Pennsylvania Republicans last week sought driver’s license data and Social Security numbers for every voter in the state as part of an inquiry into the 2020 election there.

                          The various reviews have not uncovered any significant evidence of fraud or impropriety in the vote counting. But they have created a new kind of security risk as third parties gain access to voting equipment and raised questions about the use of public resources to investigate Republican conspiracy theories.

                          To date, there have been no serious allegations that the Texas election was flawed.

                          Texas Democrats called the audit the latest attempt by Mr. Abbott and the state’s Republicans to cater to Mr. Trump.

                          “This is all an organized effort to overturn the will of the people in an effort to fuel the ‘Big Lie’ and stroke Trump’s ego,” said Gilberto Hinojosa, the chairman of the Texas Democratic Party.





                          Why are Dems so darned worried about election audits? Just what is it they are trying to hide?
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                            More about making sure he doesn't have opposition in his own party when he seeks re-election or another position.
                            Matthew McConnwhathisname is probably going to run against him - not sure as an R or a D.
                            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

                              I think you in danger of attempting to derail this thread. The very fault for which you criticise me.
                              No, a derail happens when you start chasing an irrelevant topic. I brought up a counter example to your complaint. It becomes a derail if we end up debating that topic to the exclusion of the topic.

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