Irondome Defunding

[rogue06]

You're doing that thing again, where you just say stupid stuff in order to derail a thread

FIFY n/c

[Cow Poke]

I did you the courtesy of offering clarification in case you had made an incorrect assumption.

Thank you for providing, so early in the morning, my first good laugh for the day.

However, I am beginning to realise that common courtesy and good manners do not rank very high among some here.

Maybe if you provided a sample some day, we'd take note!

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

Thank you for providing, so early in the morning, my first good laugh for the day.



Maybe if you provided a sample some day, we'd take note!

I have never used the sort of language about you, or to you, that you have repeatedly used about me.

You might want to get that beam in your eye checked out.

[tabibito]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War

In the months prior to June 1967, tensions in the region became dangerously heightened. Israel reiterated its post-1956 position that the re-closure of the Straits of Tiran to Israeli shipping would be a definite casus belli. In May, Egyptian president Gamal Abdel Nasser announced that the Straits would be closed to Israeli vessels, and subsequently mobilized the Egyptian military along the border with Israel, ejecting the UNEF.[26] On 5 June, Israel launched a series of airstrikes against Egyptian airfields, initially claiming that it had been attacked by Egypt, but later stating that the airstrikes were pre-emptive;[27][28] the question of which side caused the war remains one of a number of controversies relating to the conflict.

Israel had given warning that they would take umbrage if Egypt acted against them - but which side caused the war remains controversial. The comment is not quite as interesting as, "they're saying "death to America, but they seem peaceful.""

But in the same article, it is noted that the Soviet Union shares a goodly portion of the blame;

In May 1967, Nasser received false reports from the Soviet Union that Israel was massing on the Syrian border.^[44] Nasser began massing his troops in two defensive lines^[45] in the Sinai Peninsula on Israel's border (16 May), expelled the UNEF force from Gaza and Sinai (19 May) and took over UNEF positions at Sharm el-Sheikh, overlooking the Straits of Tiran.^[46][47] Israel repeated declarations it had made in 1957 that any closure of the Straits would be considered an act of war, or justification for war,^[48][49] but Nasser closed the Straits to Israeli shipping on 22–23 May.^[50][51][52]
After the war, U.S. President Lyndon Johnson commented:^[53]

If a single act of folly was more responsible for this explosion than any other, it was the arbitrary and dangerous announced decision that the Straits of Tiran would be closed. The right of innocent, maritime passage must be preserved for all nations.

{no-one should miss the irony in Johnson's comment}

On 30 May, Jordan and Egypt signed a defence pact. The following day, at Jordan's invitation, the Iraqi army began deploying troops and armoured units in Jordan.^[54] They were later reinforced by an Egyptian contingent. On 1 June, Israel formed a National Unity Government by widening its cabinet, and on 4 June the decision was made to go to war. The next morning, Israel launched Operation Focus, a large-scale, surprise air strike that launched the Six-Day War.

The total number of troops and weaponry fielded by Israel in that war was dwarfed by those fielded by each one of the opposing countries. Does anyone wonder why Israel did not wait for the attacking countries to initiate hostilities? Seriously?

[Cow Poke]

I have never used the sort of language about you, or to you, that you have repeatedly used about me.

You might want to get that beam in your eye checked out.

You have your own special ways of ing, darlin.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

You have your own special ways of ing, darlin.

Pointing out hypocrisy?

[Cow Poke]

Pointing out hypocrisy?

Pretending others are hypocrites and falsely accusing them is, indeed, part of your ing.

[rogue06]

Pointing out hypocrisy?

Now that's something you should really start working on yourself oh Hypocrite_Alexandria.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

Now that's something you should really start working on yourself oh Hypocrite_Alexandria.

Ah little Tabaqui. Sheltering as ever behind the bigger beast?

[rogue06]

Ah little Tabaqui. Sheltering as ever behind the bigger beast?

No hypocrite. It's just ironic to watch the kettle getting up on her high horse to sanctimoniously call something else black.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

No hypocrite. It's just ironic to watch the kettle getting up on her high horse to sanctimoniously call something else black.

I offer you the same advice I gave to Cow Poke and recommend you get that beam in your eye checked out.

[rogue06]

I offer you the same advice I gave to Cow Poke and recommend you get that beam in your eye checked out.

You better put some shoes on so you don't cut your feet walking among all that shattered glass that used to be a house before you started throwing stones.

[Bill the Cat]

Really? Israel made the first offensive move.

No they didn't. 278 Israelis killed in Palestinian fedayeen attacks.

And the first OFFENSIVE move?
July 7, 1966 Syria shells Israel. Israel Air Force downs Syrian MiG-21.

Do you realise how ludicrous that argument is?

Perhaps you should remove yourself from US soil.

I'm part Native American, so...

After all the indigenous peoples were there for millennia before the USA "was even a thing". And all those Franks should be driven back to their Germanic lands so that the Celts can rightly take back Gaul.

Well, we are all originally from Africa, so let's go!

I have no idea as to the accuracy of those comments without them being presented in context .

Which is why I provided the link to a presentation with footnotes.

As to your link's remarks on the Goldstone Report we also have to consider the abuse and intimidation to which Goldstone and his family were subjected. For example, do you recall the threats made against him if he attended his grandson's bar mitzvah?

"Alleged intimidation". And the Goldstone Report has been argued to have been distorted in a manner that maximized allegations of Israeli violations, while minimizing Hamas war crimes

Then why call legitimate criticism anti-Semitism?

I can criticize a Jewish policy without calling them "kykes", can't I? I certainly despise their liberal abortion policies, but I do not call them butchers and genocidal maniacs.

That is amusing given the terrorism that led to the foundation of the state of Israel and subsequent terrorist actions by the Israelis.

There was no terrorism that led to the foundation of Israel. And subsequent acts were under the auspices of self-defense and retribution for prior acts of war by the Arabs in 1948.

1955? Egypt? The Israeli operatives charged with targeting venues used by Britons and Americans such as cinemas and libraries?

Where the bombs were timed to detonate several hours after closing time, no one was killed, and the official that instigated it was forced to resign?

The Israeli authorities hushed that up for twenty years.

No they didn't. They even had a name for it before Lavon resigned (HaEsek HaBish). Lavon denied it, but Israeli Intelligence chief Gibli contradicted him.

Oh and as to the Six Day War let us not forget the USS Liberty either.

Both the Israeli and U.S. governments conducted inquiries and issued reports that concluded the attack was a mistake due to Israeli confusion about the ship's identity.

In other words when they condemn Israeli brutality and duplicity.

No. When they use words that are intentionally inflammatory well beyond normal criticism.

[Gondwanaland]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War

In the months prior to June 1967, tensions in the region became dangerously heightened. Israel reiterated its post-1956 position that the re-closure of the Straits of Tiran to Israeli shipping would be a definite casus belli. In May, Egyptian president Gamal Abdel Nasser announced that the Straits would be closed to Israeli vessels, and subsequently mobilized the Egyptian military along the border with Israel, ejecting the UNEF.[26] On 5 June, Israel launched a series of airstrikes against Egyptian airfields, initially claiming that it had been attacked by Egypt, but later stating that the airstrikes were pre-emptive;[27][28] the question of which side caused the war remains one of a number of controversies relating to the conflict.

Israel had given warning that they would take umbrage if Egypt acted against them - but which side caused the war remains controversial. The comment is not quite as interesting as, "they're saying "death to America, but they seem peaceful.""

But in the same article, it is noted that the Soviet Union shares a goodly portion of the blame;

In May 1967, Nasser received false reports from the Soviet Union that Israel was massing on the Syrian border.^[44] Nasser began massing his troops in two defensive lines^[45] in the Sinai Peninsula on Israel's border (16 May), expelled the UNEF force from Gaza and Sinai (19 May) and took over UNEF positions at Sharm el-Sheikh, overlooking the Straits of Tiran.^[46][47] Israel repeated declarations it had made in 1957 that any closure of the Straits would be considered an act of war, or justification for war,^[48][49] but Nasser closed the Straits to Israeli shipping on 22–23 May.^[50][51][52]
After the war, U.S. President Lyndon Johnson commented:^[53]

If a single act of folly was more responsible for this explosion than any other, it was the arbitrary and dangerous announced decision that the Straits of Tiran would be closed. The right of innocent, maritime passage must be preserved for all nations.

{no-one should miss the irony in Johnson's comment}

On 30 May, Jordan and Egypt signed a defence pact. The following day, at Jordan's invitation, the Iraqi army began deploying troops and armoured units in Jordan.^[54] They were later reinforced by an Egyptian contingent. On 1 June, Israel formed a National Unity Government by widening its cabinet, and on 4 June the decision was made to go to war. The next morning, Israel launched Operation Focus, a large-scale, surprise air strike that launched the Six-Day War.

The total number of troops and weaponry fielded by Israel in that war was dwarfed by those fielded by each one of the opposing countries. Does anyone wonder why Israel did not wait for the attacking countries to initiate hostilities? Seriously?

IOW Israel started the war and convinced people that they were somehow in the right.

Interesting tidit there how they claimed they were attacked by Egypt and then later had to admit they were lying.

Brings to mind the other part of that war. Where they performed a false flag attack on the USS Liberty and murdered a bunch of US sailors hoping they could pull the US into the war on their side by making them think that one of the other countries had attacked. How any American with a conscience still supported Israel after is beyond me.

[Cow Poke]

I offer you the same advice I gave to Cow Poke and recommend you get that beam in your eye checked out.

We don't take advise from ignorant internet s.