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Originally posted by civildiscourse View Post
is it then your position that if he doesn't use that word in his writings it's impossible to know he was jewish, that there is absolutely no other way to make that determination other than him using that USUALLY INAPPROPRIATE word?
1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
9:30 AM CST 17 September1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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Originally posted by tabibito View Post
Thankee - Midnight here.- Create a thread based on total misinformation or nonsense
- to her heart's content
- Make a total fool of herself
- Leave the thread in a huff or ask for it to be closed
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
She seems to have a pattern.....- Create a thread based on total misinformation or nonsense
- to her heart's content
- Make a total fool of herself
- Leave the thread in a huff or ask for it to be closed
Trying to work out where her idea comes from that Paul said the only valid gospel was his might even cure my insomnia.1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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Originally posted by tabibito View PostWhat would we do for excitement without her?
Trying to work out where her idea comes from that Paul said the only valid gospel was his might even cure my insomnia.
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
Which is why I'm not in favor of banning her.
Or that Paul was not a Jew because he didn't use a very specific word, in spite of tons of evidence he was, even from his own lips.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Postthat no one has mentioned this.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/...sgender-bishop
The Evangelical Lutheran Church of America has installed its first openly transgender bishop in a service held in San Francisco’s Grace Cathedral on Saturday.
The Rev Megan Rohrer will lead one of the church’s 65 synods, overseeing nearly 200 congregations in northern California and northern Nevada.
“My call is ... to be up to the same messy, loving things I was up to before,” Rohrer told worshippers. “But mostly, if you’ll let me, and I think you will, my hope is to love you and beyond that, to love what you love.”
Rohrer was elected in May to serve a six-year term as bishop of the Sierra Pacific Synod after its current bishop announced his retirement.
“I step into this role because a diverse community of Lutherans in northern California and Nevada prayerfully and thoughtfully voted to do a historic thing,” Rohrer said in a statement. “My installation will celebrate all that is possible when we trust God to shepherd us forward.”
Rohrer, who uses the pronoun “they,” previously served as pastor of Grace Lutheran Church in San Francisco and a chaplain coordinator for the city’s police department, and also helped minister to the city’s homeless and LGTBQ+ communities. They studied religion at Augustana University in their hometown of Sioux Falls, South Dakota, before moving to California to pursue master’s and doctoral degrees at the Pacific School of Religion in Berkeley.
Rohrer became one of seven LGBTQ+ pastors accepted by the progressive Evangelical Lutheran church in 2010 after it allowed ordination of pastors in same-sex relationships. Rohrer is married and has two children.
The church is one of the largest Christian denominations in the United States, with about 3.3 million members.
I wonder what the laity will make of it. Is 3.3 million members one of the largest Christian denominations in the US? Or is that a reference to churches and not individuals?Last edited by shunyadragon; 09-17-2021, 10:07 AM.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
This the direction of the more liberal churches abandoning the literal understanding of ancient myth based scripture literal interpretation of scripture. Yes, it is a turn to a degree of rational 'humanism' trying in vain to make peace with a changing world. There remains a contradiction with the Biblical scripture taught in the Sunday school in all churches. Sitting on the fence gets a lot of irrational splinters in their butt, and results in the division of Christianity into more churches
The thread can now be closed!The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
This the direction of the more liberal churches abandoning the literal understanding of ancient myth based scripture literal interpretation of scripture. Yes, it is a turn to a degree of rational 'humanism' trying in vain to make peace with a changing world. There remains a contradiction with the Biblical scripture taught in the Sunday school in all churches. Sitting on the fence gets a lot of irrational splinters in their butt, and results in the division of Christianity into more churches
Just sayin'
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostNo I do not. You [collectively] need to find the text where Paul uses the Greek [and he wrote in Koine Greek] word ιουδαιος when referring to himself.Last edited by RumTumTugger; 09-17-2021, 12:18 PM.
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Originally posted by RumTumTugger View Post
Yes you do Hypatia you are making the claim that the only way Paul would have or could have said he was a Jew was to use that Greek word when there are many ways. All we had to do was show you the different ways Jewish people referred to them selves as Jews and we did .You have to prove that all the other ways weren't how the Jewish people referred to themselves as being Jewish. We do not have to find what is not there which we've admitted you have to prove that that is the only way Paul would have used to say he was Jewish Sorry Hypatia it is on you not use to prove your point.
However, while he does use other phrases to indicate his bona fides to his Gentile audience he never uses the word Ἰουδαῖος and that does raise questions.
The whys and wherefores as to why he never employs that term are unknowns but the questions remain."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by tabibito View Post
What would we do for excitement without her?
Trying to work out where her idea comes from that Paul said the only valid gospel was his might even cure my insomnia.Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.
Beige Federalist.
Nationalist Christian.
"Everybody is somebody's heretic."
Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.
Proud member of the this space left blank community.
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