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  • #16
    Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
    Yeah, funny that.
    It's like maybe the Blessings of God go with the Preaching of His Word!
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
      that no one has mentioned this.

      https://www.theguardian.com/society/...sgender-bishop



      The Evangelical Lutheran Church of America has installed its first openly transgender bishop in a service held in San Francisco’s Grace Cathedral on Saturday.

      The Rev Megan Rohrer will lead one of the church’s 65 synods, overseeing nearly 200 congregations in northern California and northern Nevada.

      “My call is ... to be up to the same messy, loving things I was up to before,” Rohrer told worshippers. “But mostly, if you’ll let me, and I think you will, my hope is to love you and beyond that, to love what you love.”

      Rohrer was elected in May to serve a six-year term as bishop of the Sierra Pacific Synod after its current bishop announced his retirement.

      “I step into this role because a diverse community of Lutherans in northern California and Nevada prayerfully and thoughtfully voted to do a historic thing,” Rohrer said in a statement. “My installation will celebrate all that is possible when we trust God to shepherd us forward.”

      Rohrer, who uses the pronoun “they,” previously served as pastor of Grace Lutheran Church in San Francisco and a chaplain coordinator for the city’s police department, and also helped minister to the city’s homeless and LGTBQ+ communities. They studied religion at Augustana University in their hometown of Sioux Falls, South Dakota, before moving to California to pursue master’s and doctoral degrees at the Pacific School of Religion in Berkeley.

      Rohrer became one of seven LGBTQ+ pastors accepted by the progressive Evangelical Lutheran church in 2010 after it allowed ordination of pastors in same-sex relationships. Rohrer is married and has two children.

      The church is one of the largest Christian denominations in the United States, with about 3.3 million members.


      I wonder what the laity will make of it. Is 3.3 million members one of the largest Christian denominations in the US? Or is that a reference to churches and not individuals?
      I'm guessing he/she/it will not be preaching from the book of 1 Peter...



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      • #18
        Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post

        I'm guessing he/she/it will not be preaching from the book of 1 Peter...



        I'm guessing he/she/it will not be preaching from The Book...
        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

          I'm guessing he/she/it will not be preaching from The Book...
          That.


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          • #20
            Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

            Christian.
            All Christian denominations are Christian.

            "It ain't necessarily so
            The things that you're liable
            To read in the Bible
            It ain't necessarily so
            ."

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            • #21
              Originally posted by mossrose View Post

              That's what she does. That's all she does.
              I recall rogue06 writing here https://theologyweb.com/campus/forum...ce-there/page2 that "most Baptists don't consider themselves to be Protestant".
              "It ain't necessarily so
              The things that you're liable
              To read in the Bible
              It ain't necessarily so
              ."

              Sportin' Life
              Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
                All Christian denominations are Christian.
                Define "Christian".


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                • #23
                  Originally posted by mossrose View Post

                  Define "Christian".
                  In the broadest sense the term is generally used to describe those who believe in Jesus the Christ and follow his teachings.

                  Of course Christians have routinely slaughtered one another in the past [and in parts of the world some might still want to] but at the end of the day you are all supposed to believe in the texts and teachings found in the NT.

                  "It ain't necessarily so
                  The things that you're liable
                  To read in the Bible
                  It ain't necessarily so
                  ."

                  Sportin' Life
                  Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

                    In the broadest sense the term is generally used to describe those who believe in Jesus the Christ and follow his teachings.
                    And in a narrow sense not everyone who calls themselves Christian is one, including those who disobey God's word and decide to live a life of sin as Romans 1 lays out.

                    Of course Christians have routinely slaughtered one another in the past [and in parts of the world some might still want to] but at the end of the day you are all supposed to believe in the texts and teachings found in the NT.

                    And away we go down another rabbit hole with a derail. If you'd stopped at the end of your first sentence you would have been closer. But you had to throw more red herrings in.

                    Plaid.


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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

                      In the broadest sense the term is generally used to describe those who believe in Jesus the Christ and follow his teachings.

                      Of course Christians have routinely slaughtered one another in the past [and in parts of the world some might still want to] but at the end of the day you are all supposed to believe in the texts and teachings found in the NT.
                      Which has what to do with the post you responded to from Cow Poke?

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

                        Which has what to do with the post you responded to from Cow Poke?
                        I was answering the request put to me by mossrose. You clearly missed that.
                        "It ain't necessarily so
                        The things that you're liable
                        To read in the Bible
                        It ain't necessarily so
                        ."

                        Sportin' Life
                        Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by mossrose View Post

                          And in a narrow sense not everyone who calls themselves Christian is one, including those who disobey God's word and decide to live a life of sin as Romans 1 lays out.




                          And away we go down another rabbit hole with a derail. If you'd stopped at the end of your first sentence you would have been closer. But you had to throw more red herrings in.

                          Plaid.
                          You put a request to me and I answered you.

                          By the way why do you not cite the teachings of Jesus rather than the writing of Paul?
                          Last edited by Hypatia_Alexandria; 09-14-2021, 05:54 PM.
                          "It ain't necessarily so
                          The things that you're liable
                          To read in the Bible
                          It ain't necessarily so
                          ."

                          Sportin' Life
                          Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Esther View Post
                            A transgender or LGBTQ person holding any office in any denomination is of course an abomination and goes against the clear written word of the Bible.
                            Is there a clear anti-trans teaching in the bible?
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

                              You put a request to me and I answered you.
                              And added a red herring, a derail.

                              And I responded to your answer in order to correct your understanding of "Christian".


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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                                Is there a clear anti-trans teaching in the bible?
                                There sure is. Right at the beginning. Genesis 1

                                27 So God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.


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