Announcement

Collapse

Civics 101 Guidelines

Want to argue about politics? Healthcare reform? Taxes? Governments? You've come to the right place!

Try to keep it civil though. The rules still apply here.
See more
See less

Bizzare attempts to rewrite the history of the January 6 assault on the Capital

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Bizzare attempts to rewrite the history of the January 6 assault on the Capital

    Source: https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-donald-trump-capitol-siege-d2fb23af3f01387412a1a00b4eac531c?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Monday_News_Wire&utm_term=Morning%20Wire%20Subscribers





    https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden...a1a00b4eac531c

    Capitol rally seeks to rewrite Jan. 6 by exalting rioters


    By LISA MASCARO


    WASHINGTON (AP) — First, some blamed the deadly Jan. 6 attack at the U.S. Capitol on left-wing antifa antagonists, a theory quickly debunked. Then came comparisons of the rioters to peaceful protesters or even tourists.

    Now, allies of former President Donald Trump are calling those charged in the Capitol riot “political prisoners,” a stunning effort to revise the narrative of that deadly day.

    The brazen rhetoric ahead of a rally planned for Saturday at the Capitol is the latest attempt to explain away the horrific assault and obscure what played out for all the world to see: rioters loyal to the then-president storming the building, battling police and trying to stop Congress from certifying the election of Democrat Joe Biden.

    “Some people are calling it Jan. 6 trutherism — they’re rewriting the narrative to make it seem like Jan. 6 was no big deal, and it was a damn big deal, and an attack on our democracy,” said Heidi Beirich, co-founder of the Global Project Against Hate and Extremism, who studies extremist movements.

    All told, the attempted whitewashing of the Jan. 6 attack threatens to further divide an already polarized nation that finds itself drifting from what had been common facts and a shared commitment to civic order toward an unsettling new normal.

    Rather than a nation healing eight months after the deadly assault, it is at risk of tearing itself further apart, as the next election approaches.

    The anticipated crowd size and the intensity of the Saturday rally are unclear, but law enforcement appears to be taking no chances. Security fencing has been requested around the Capitol and reinforcements are being summoned to back up the Capitol Police, whose leadership was criticized and summarily dismissed for its handling of Jan. 6.

    While authorities have been bracing for a repeat appearance by right-wing extremist groups and other Trump loyalists who mobbed the Capitol, it’s unclear if those actors will participate in the new event. The extremist groups are concerning because, while members of the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers made up a small portion of the Jan. 6 rioters, they are accused of some of the more serious crimes in the attack.

    Rally organizer Matt Braynard, a former Trump campaign strategist, has been promoting the event and others like it in cities nationwide, focusing attention on what he calls the “prisoners” being unfairly prosecuted for their involvement in the Jan. 6 riot.

    “I am so proud of all of the brave patriots who participated in these rallies under the same threat to their rights of so many who are being held in prison now for a non-violent expression of their First Amendment rights,” he said in a July news release.

    Braynard declined to respond to additional questions by email, and The Associated Press declined to accept the conditions he made for an interview.

    As Trump openly considers another run for the White House, many of the Republican lawmakers who joined his effort to challenge Biden’s victory are staying away from the Saturday rally, even though many still echo his false claims that the election was rigged — despite numerous court cases by Trump’s allies that have failed to confirm those allegations.

    Rep. Mo Brooks, R-Ala., who joined rally-goers near the White House on Jan. 6 where Trump encouraged the crowd to go to the Capitol, declined to comment, his spokesman said by email. Brooks is now running for the Senate.

    Another Republican, Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas, who voted to challenge some Electoral College tallies, was unavailable for an interview, his office said.

    Also declining an interview was Sen. Josh Hawley, R-Mo., who was captured in a photo raising a fist in salute to the mob as he entered the Capitol that day.

    © Copyright Original Source

    Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
    Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
    But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

    go with the flow the river knows . . .

    Frank

    I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

  • #2
    Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
    Source: https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-donald-trump-capitol-siege-d2fb23af3f01387412a1a00b4eac531c?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Monday_News_Wire&utm_term=Morning%20Wire%20Subscribers





    https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden...a1a00b4eac531c

    Capitol rally seeks to rewrite Jan. 6 by exalting rioters


    By LISA MASCARO


    WASHINGTON (AP) — First, some blamed the deadly Jan. 6 attack at the U.S. Capitol on left-wing antifa antagonists, a theory quickly debunked. Then came comparisons of the rioters to peaceful protesters or even tourists.

    Now, allies of former President Donald Trump are calling those charged in the Capitol riot “political prisoners,” a stunning effort to revise the narrative of that deadly day.

    The brazen rhetoric ahead of a rally planned for Saturday at the Capitol is the latest attempt to explain away the horrific assault and obscure what played out for all the world to see: rioters loyal to the then-president storming the building, battling police and trying to stop Congress from certifying the election of Democrat Joe Biden.

    “Some people are calling it Jan. 6 trutherism — they’re rewriting the narrative to make it seem like Jan. 6 was no big deal, and it was a damn big deal, and an attack on our democracy,” said Heidi Beirich, co-founder of the Global Project Against Hate and Extremism, who studies extremist movements.

    All told, the attempted whitewashing of the Jan. 6 attack threatens to further divide an already polarized nation that finds itself drifting from what had been common facts and a shared commitment to civic order toward an unsettling new normal.

    Rather than a nation healing eight months after the deadly assault, it is at risk of tearing itself further apart, as the next election approaches.

    The anticipated crowd size and the intensity of the Saturday rally are unclear, but law enforcement appears to be taking no chances. Security fencing has been requested around the Capitol and reinforcements are being summoned to back up the Capitol Police, whose leadership was criticized and summarily dismissed for its handling of Jan. 6.

    While authorities have been bracing for a repeat appearance by right-wing extremist groups and other Trump loyalists who mobbed the Capitol, it’s unclear if those actors will participate in the new event. The extremist groups are concerning because, while members of the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers made up a small portion of the Jan. 6 rioters, they are accused of some of the more serious crimes in the attack.

    Rally organizer Matt Braynard, a former Trump campaign strategist, has been promoting the event and others like it in cities nationwide, focusing attention on what he calls the “prisoners” being unfairly prosecuted for their involvement in the Jan. 6 riot.

    “I am so proud of all of the brave patriots who participated in these rallies under the same threat to their rights of so many who are being held in prison now for a non-violent expression of their First Amendment rights,” he said in a July news release.

    Braynard declined to respond to additional questions by email, and The Associated Press declined to accept the conditions he made for an interview.

    As Trump openly considers another run for the White House, many of the Republican lawmakers who joined his effort to challenge Biden’s victory are staying away from the Saturday rally, even though many still echo his false claims that the election was rigged — despite numerous court cases by Trump’s allies that have failed to confirm those allegations.

    Rep. Mo Brooks, R-Ala., who joined rally-goers near the White House on Jan. 6 where Trump encouraged the crowd to go to the Capitol, declined to comment, his spokesman said by email. Brooks is now running for the Senate.

    Another Republican, Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas, who voted to challenge some Electoral College tallies, was unavailable for an interview, his office said.

    Also declining an interview was Sen. Josh Hawley, R-Mo., who was captured in a photo raising a fist in salute to the mob as he entered the Capitol that day.

    © Copyright Original Source

    Oh noes, someone is going to hold a rally and use their free speech to say something your herdmasters disagree with! The horror!

    Comment


    • #3
      Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post

      Oh noes, someone is going to hold a rally and use their free speech to say something your herdmasters disagree with! The horror!
      There is no question here of not allowing free speech. You have not addressed the issue of the thread, and who is promoting the rally and rewrite history.
      Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
      Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
      But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

      go with the flow the river knows . . .

      Frank

      I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

      Comment


      • #4
        Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post

        There is no question here of not allowing free speech. You have not addressed the issue of the thread, and who is promoting the rally and rewrite history.
        Not sure what is being rewritten.

        I did find it interesting your source used scare quotes around the word prisoners,, as if the person using the term was making things up.. Last I checkedbpeople being held in jail are prisoners,, and most of them arebindeed being held until trial.

        Comment


        • #5
          Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
          Source: https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-donald-trump-capitol-siege-d2fb23af3f01387412a1a00b4eac531c?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Monday_News_Wire&utm_term=Morning%20Wire%20Subscribers





          https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden...a1a00b4eac531c

          Capitol rally seeks to rewrite Jan. 6 by exalting rioters


          By LISA MASCARO


          WASHINGTON (AP) — First, some blamed the deadly Jan. 6 attack at the U.S. Capitol on left-wing antifa antagonists, a theory quickly debunked. Then came comparisons of the rioters to peaceful protesters or even tourists.

          Now, allies of former President Donald Trump are calling those charged in the Capitol riot “political prisoners,” a stunning effort to revise the narrative of that deadly day.

          The brazen rhetoric ahead of a rally planned for Saturday at the Capitol is the latest attempt to explain away the horrific assault and obscure what played out for all the world to see: rioters loyal to the then-president storming the building, battling police and trying to stop Congress from certifying the election of Democrat Joe Biden.

          “Some people are calling it Jan. 6 trutherism — they’re rewriting the narrative to make it seem like Jan. 6 was no big deal, and it was a damn big deal, and an attack on our democracy,” said Heidi Beirich, co-founder of the Global Project Against Hate and Extremism, who studies extremist movements.

          All told, the attempted whitewashing of the Jan. 6 attack threatens to further divide an already polarized nation that finds itself drifting from what had been common facts and a shared commitment to civic order toward an unsettling new normal.

          Rather than a nation healing eight months after the deadly assault, it is at risk of tearing itself further apart, as the next election approaches.

          The anticipated crowd size and the intensity of the Saturday rally are unclear, but law enforcement appears to be taking no chances. Security fencing has been requested around the Capitol and reinforcements are being summoned to back up the Capitol Police, whose leadership was criticized and summarily dismissed for its handling of Jan. 6.

          While authorities have been bracing for a repeat appearance by right-wing extremist groups and other Trump loyalists who mobbed the Capitol, it’s unclear if those actors will participate in the new event. The extremist groups are concerning because, while members of the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers made up a small portion of the Jan. 6 rioters, they are accused of some of the more serious crimes in the attack.

          Rally organizer Matt Braynard, a former Trump campaign strategist, has been promoting the event and others like it in cities nationwide, focusing attention on what he calls the “prisoners” being unfairly prosecuted for their involvement in the Jan. 6 riot.

          “I am so proud of all of the brave patriots who participated in these rallies under the same threat to their rights of so many who are being held in prison now for a non-violent expression of their First Amendment rights,” he said in a July news release.

          Braynard declined to respond to additional questions by email, and The Associated Press declined to accept the conditions he made for an interview.

          As Trump openly considers another run for the White House, many of the Republican lawmakers who joined his effort to challenge Biden’s victory are staying away from the Saturday rally, even though many still echo his false claims that the election was rigged — despite numerous court cases by Trump’s allies that have failed to confirm those allegations.

          Rep. Mo Brooks, R-Ala., who joined rally-goers near the White House on Jan. 6 where Trump encouraged the crowd to go to the Capitol, declined to comment, his spokesman said by email. Brooks is now running for the Senate.

          Another Republican, Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas, who voted to challenge some Electoral College tallies, was unavailable for an interview, his office said.

          Also declining an interview was Sen. Josh Hawley, R-Mo., who was captured in a photo raising a fist in salute to the mob as he entered the Capitol that day.

          © Copyright Original Source

          Dang it don't they know that rewriting history of the January 6th riot is Congress' job? You know, including fairy tales about Sicknick being bludgeoned to death with a fire extinguisher.

          I'm always still in trouble again

          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
          "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

          Comment


          • #6
            Originally posted by rogue06 View Post

            Dang it don't they know that rewriting history of the January 6th riot is Congress' job? You know, including fairy tales about Sicknick being bludgeoned to death with a fire extinguisher.
            Actually not the topic,but the present documented records DO NOT propose that Sicknick being bludgeoned to death with a fire extinguisher, but the violence against Capital law enforcement is overwhelmingly documented.
            Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
            Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
            But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

            go with the flow the river knows . . .

            Frank

            I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

            Comment


            • #7
              Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post

              Not sure what is being rewritten.

              I did find it interesting your source used scare quotes around the word prisoners,, as if the person using the term was making things up.. Last I checkedbpeople being held in jail are prisoners,, and most of them arebindeed being held until trial.
              The opening post defines original issue.
              Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
              Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
              But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

              go with the flow the river knows . . .

              Frank

              I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

              Comment


              • #8
                Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post

                Actually not the topic,but the present documented records DO NOT propose that Sicknick being bludgeoned to death with a fire extinguisher, but the violence against Capital law enforcement is overwhelmingly documented.
                The left rode that horse as far as they could and after it collapsed then tried to drag its body twice as far.



                I'm always still in trouble again

                "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

                Comment


                • #9
                  Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post

                  Actually not the topic,but the present documented records DO NOT propose that Sicknick being bludgeoned to death with a fire extinguisher, but the violence against Capital law enforcement is overwhelmingly documented.
                  How bout the deadly violence against one of the protesters by a Capitol Police officer - resulting in the ONLY death immediately related to the riot. The left has already rewritten the history on that one.
                  The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Or how bout the rewriting of the DISASTROUS handling of the riot by the Capitol Police where Command and Control was essentially non-existent, and chose to ignore warnings by the FBI that there would be major problems -- instead, choosing to believe "it will be like the million man march".

                    Congressional hearings show a total train wreck - the media hails the bravery and heroism of the Capitol Police.
                    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post

                      The opening post defines original issue.
                      The opening post makes claims of rewriting and trutherism but is sorely lacking in details on how this rally is supposedly an attempt to rewrite history.

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        What "assault"?

                        Do you mean the peaceful rally?

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post

                          There is no question here of not allowing free speech. You have not addressed the issue of the thread, and who is promoting the rally and rewrite history.
                          The only ones trying to rewrite history are the democrats, including the author of this article. The rewriting started immediately as the liberals tried to reframe the riot as an "insurrection" and "an attack on our democracy" when it was neither. It was a riot. Those who participated in it need to be punished and they are. But if you notice that there are no charges of "insurrection" or "treason" anywhere in any of those being charged for the riot. The worst charges seem to be trespassing and destruction of property. And you know, if the democrats could have charged anyone with insurrection, they would have.

                          Give it up Shuny. Your gas-lighting isn't working.

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Maranatha View Post
                            What "assault"?

                            Do you mean the peaceful rally?
                            2a859977-eee1-42b7-b977-4bc79ea91692.jpg

                            I'm always still in trouble again

                            "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                            "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                            "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post

                              The opening post makes claims of rewriting and trutherism but is sorely lacking in details on how this rally is supposedly an attempt to rewrite history.
                              It is not supposed, The article details attempts to minimize the 'assault on the Capital, and represent ir as a peaceful gathering on the lawn of the Capital. The damage to the Capital, the violent assault on Capital Law Enforcement, the threats to the duely elected Senators and Vice Presifnrand forced occupation of the Senate Chambers are will documented.
                              Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
                              Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
                              But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

                              go with the flow the river knows . . .

                              Frank

                              I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

                              Comment

                              Related Threads

                              Collapse

                              Topics Statistics Last Post
                              Started by little_monkey, Yesterday, 04:19 PM
                              16 responses
                              102 views
                              0 likes
                              Last Post One Bad Pig  
                              Started by whag, 03-26-2024, 04:38 PM
                              53 responses
                              301 views
                              0 likes
                              Last Post Mountain Man  
                              Started by rogue06, 03-26-2024, 11:45 AM
                              25 responses
                              109 views
                              0 likes
                              Last Post rogue06
                              by rogue06
                               
                              Started by Hypatia_Alexandria, 03-26-2024, 09:21 AM
                              33 responses
                              196 views
                              0 likes
                              Last Post Roy
                              by Roy
                               
                              Started by Hypatia_Alexandria, 03-26-2024, 08:34 AM
                              84 responses
                              357 views
                              0 likes
                              Last Post JimL
                              by JimL
                               
                              Working...
                              X