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Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
Maybe you can explain how you see this as my MO. I provide testimony.
You are so weird. Anything that goes against your belief system you classify as conspiracy and quacks. This is loaded language used to preserve Mass Psychosis. How can we wake you up?
The use of loaded language means you do not have to investigate any of the testimony of people. You can classify them before you know their reputation and background.
You seem to be the one who is under a mass psychosis. Believing that you are right and that you understand and are using science. A complete delusion.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostThat seems to be your modus operandi.
And yet what you do is listen to conspiracy sites and quacks.
You are so weird. Anything that goes against your belief system you classify as conspiracy and quacks. This is loaded language used to preserve Mass Psychosis. How can we wake you up?
The use of loaded language means you do not have to investigate any of the testimony of people. You can classify them before you know their reputation and background.
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Originally posted by Stoic View Post
Wouldn't you agree that this statement was somewhat misleading? "As to a doctor who was kicked out of the hospital practice in BC... Dr. Hoeffe told a nurse that a patient would not need the vax because the patient had covid-19 recently."
You really ought to give up on that guy.
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Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
You want me to swallow unsubstantiated beliefs the writer was promoting?
I would prefer to stay with the science and medical experts.
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
There you go handwaving away anything that contradicts your view.
Maybe you can advise me what experts in that article convinced you that the writer wrote a good piece.
You are so convinced of your opinion against the scientific evidence. This is a sign of the continuing Mass Psychosis.
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Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
Thanks for contributing a useless article that does not discuss the science of anything but just makes unsupported statements to try to contradict what Hoffe has said.
One example is the reliance on "belief" that certain deaths are not the result of the covid shots. Hoffe has identified clotting in 60% of people that he checked after they got these shots.
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Originally posted by Stoic View PostThere are no scientific studies or data showing that getting vaccinated is more dangerous than getting covid-19.
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Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
Thanks for contributing a useless article that does not discuss the science of anything but just makes unsupported statements to try to contradict what Hoffe has said.
One example is the reliance on "belief" that certain deaths are not the result of the covid shots. Hoffe has identified clotting in 60% of people that he checked after they got these shots.
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Originally posted by Stoic View PostI would guess that they rely on the phase 3 trial results, along with the public health records regarding results of covid-19 infections and results of vaccinations.
To support your point, you chose this guy?
One example is the reliance on "belief" that certain deaths are not the result of the covid shots. Hoffe has identified clotting in 60% of people that he checked after they got these shots.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostBut what if a doctor has good reasons backed by scientific studies and data for thinking that what he is saying is true?
Honestly, it sounds like the boards in question are for some reason desperate to have "consensus" about the China flu vaccines, but they realize there are enough open questions and room for debate that the only way they can get the appearance of widespread agreement is to threaten a doctor's livelihood if he dares to contradict the state mandated narrative. Back to something I quoted earlier:
Think about it from a common sense perspective. If the claims behind COVID-19, and the variants as an example, were honest and genuine; and if the benefits of the vaccine were true as claimed; the medical establishment would not need to threaten doctors, and they would not view sunlight as a risk to their objective.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com...ded-and-cited/
The only reason the government and its agencies would fear a doctor publicly contradicting them is if they lacked definitive proof that the doctor was wrong.
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Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
That is all the worse that medical boards threaten doctors for information to the public. The public arena is one option for opening up debate and discussion. Mountain Man pointed this out. How has the information even been found to be justifiably called misinformation? In support of your stance, maybe you can find the scientific studies that the medical boards rely on to make their determinations.
As to a doctor who was kicked out of the hospital practice in BC... Dr. Hoeffe told a nurse that a patient would not need the vax because the patient had covid-19 recently.
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Many of the vaccinated are angry at the unvaccinated because they’ve been lied to, both about who is actually spreading Covid (anyone care to guess what happens when a vaccinated person contracts Covid, yet feels fine and engages normally in society?) and the efficacy of the vaccines themselves. So many seem to think the vaccines are sterile, in the same way vaccines against other diseases have been, and that, if we just mask and vax harrrrrd enough there will actually be a future time when there is no Covid. Well, here’s a news flash: Even if vaccination levels somehow reached 100%, transmission and contraction of this virus will not end.
I’ve said this over and over for 18 months, and I’ll say it again. It’s time to end the insanity. It’s time to surrender and stop fighting a fight we can’t win. Sure, shield and vaccinate the vulnerable (and hope to God that some of the rumors about vaccines driving variants aren’t true), but the vast majority of people need to accept and deal with the fact that they are going to get this virus, which will continue virusing until it's finished, regardless of what humans do. The good news, if they are willing to hear it, is the same as it’s always been: it won’t be dangerous for the vast majority.
https://townhall.com/columnists/scot...ender-n2595743
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Originally posted by Stoic View Post
Yes. It means that what doctors say to their patients is somewhat more privileged than what they say to the public. Even if it's false.
Think about it from a common sense perspective. If the claims behind COVID-19, and the variants as an example, were honest and genuine; and if the benefits of the vaccine were true as claimed; the medical establishment would not need to threaten doctors, and they would not view sunlight as a risk to their objective.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com...ded-and-cited/
The only reason the government and its agencies would fear a doctor publicly contradicting them is if they lacked definitive proof that the doctor was wrong.
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