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  • #31
    Originally posted by Starlight View Post
    Relevant news from today...

    Texas GOP official dies of stupidity, leaves family begging for handouts.

    A GOP official from Texas who regularly espoused anti-vaccine and anti-mask views online has died from COVID-19, five days after posting a meme on Facebook questioning the wisdom of getting inoculated against COVID...

    “He leaves behind his wife, Melissa, who is COVID positive, as well as their infant son Reid,” according to the fundraiser, which has so far raised almost $15,000 of its $30,000 goal. “Your donations are greatly appreciated and will help the family as they get through this difficult period.”...

    Texas Republican Party Chairman Matt Rinaldi said in a statement, “Please join me in lifting the Apley family up in prayer. We will miss Scott deeply but find comfort knowing he is at peace in the arms of our Savior.” The announcement did not mention the fact that Apley’s death was COVID-related.
    And here I was thinking you couldn't get any more disgusting... but here you are.... asshat.
    That's what
    - She

    Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
    - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

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    • #32
      Originally posted by mikewhitney
      I get reports of more people harmed by the experimental shots than by covid-19 itself
      Reports from where?

      Originally posted by mikewhitney
      I also have heard of more deaths and injury by covid shot than I have of deaths by covid-19.
      Heard from where?

      Originally posted by mikewhitney
      ...we are already seeing places where there are more vaxxed people in the hospitals than those without the sars-cov-2 shots.
      Where specifically?

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      • #33
        Originally posted by CMD View Post

        Reports from where?



        Heard from where?



        Where specifically?
        Oops. You missed the questions addressed to the readers of the original post.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post

          Oops. You missed the questions addressed to the readers of the original post.
          I'm asking for specific sources for your claims.. If I missed them then I apologize, but all I'm seeing is statements without any supporting evidence.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by CMD View Post

            I'm asking for specific sources for your claims.. If I missed them then I apologize, but all I'm seeing is statements without any supporting evidence.
            Oops. You may have missed where I noted that "You missed the questions addressed to the readers of the original post."

            I stated my observations and you can state yours. If this spurs further discussion, then great.

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            • #36
              Ok, my observations are that your observations are wrong. I'd provide sources, but apparently those aren't necessary.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by CMD View Post
                Ok, my observations are that your observations are wrong. I'd provide sources, but apparently those aren't necessary.
                All I can say is that you chose to participate in this thread. Now you are backing out.

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                • #38
                  Hey CMD, this is your lucky day. I felt like answering some of the questions you had despite your reluctance to participate

                  Originally posted by CMD View Post

                  Reports from where?

                  Heard from where?
                  I generally follow the news on deaths and injuries from the covid shots, so I do admit that bias. This is a good website for showing the VAERS data: https://vaxpain.us/

                  My focus was on reports that I have heard from individuals I'm in discussions with. So, as I have indicated, these are per things I have heard. There are instances that I have heard but don't recall. And this is not to imply that we have had more deaths thus far by the shots than deaths ascribed to covid-19. However, since at least 80-90% of deaths ascribed to covid-19 were not from covid-19 alone, we may have only had 60k-120k deaths by covid-19. Even these could be mostly due to medical malpractice and the rejection of treatments like Ivermectin, high-dosage Vitamin D, and Budesonide.

                  One person I chat with -- her mother went blind after the shots and suffered paralysis. I think that women died last month after 60-90 days following the shots.

                  Another person's brother (or in-law) got the shots and has become weak and ill afterwards. He had been in fine health until the shots.

                  I have not heard of any covid related deaths through friends, family or contacts. Maybe someone mentioned a covid death around tweb but I don't recall any specifics.


                  Where specifically?
                  The trends in the hospitals of some countries shows big increases of patients who got the sars-cov-2 shots: UK, Israel and Chile, per this link:
                  https://childrenshealthdefense.org/d...id-infections/
                  Here's a partial quote from there on the UK
                  A recent study published by King’s College in London, which operates the ZOE COVID Study app to monitor COVID infection and vaccination rates, found that, as of July 15 there was an average of 15,537 new daily symptomatic cases of COVID-19 among partly or fully vaccinated people in the UK — an increase of 40% from the previous week’s total of 11,084 new cases.

                  Infections in vaccinated people in UK are outpacing infections in the unvaccinated

                  The Zoe COVID Study, led by epidemiologist Tim Spector, M.D., of Kings College in London, estimated that there were 17,581 new daily symptomatic cases of COVID-19 in unvaccinated people, or 22% less than the previous week’s total of 22,638 new cases. According to a press release issued by the study’s authors, “With cases in the vaccinated group continuing to rise, the number of new cases in the vaccinated population is set to overtake the unvaccinated in the coming days.”
                  Israel already was showing more hospitalizations early on among those who got the shots.
                  This is the conclusion area of the analysis from back in February or March
                  Source: http://www.nakim.org/israel-forums/viewtopic.php?t=270812


                  This scary picture also extends to those below 65, among which, for the 5 weeks during the complete vaccination process 0.05%, meaning 50 among 100000, died. This is to be compared to the 0.19 per 100000 dying from COVID-19 and that are not vaccinated in that age group, as per the above table. Hence the death rate of this age group increased by 260 during this 5-week period of the vaccination process, as compared to their natural COVID-19 death rate.

                  A simple way to pass these points across relate to the monthly COVID-19 deaths rates since the start of the pandemic and until mid-December, 3014 deaths, hence 3014/9 = 334.9 deaths per month. Monthly death rates since mid-December are 2337/2 = 1168.5 deaths per month, hence 3.5 times greater.

                  We conclude that the Pfizer vaccines, for the elderly, killed during the 5-week vaccination period about 40 times more people than the disease itself would have killed, and about 260 times more people than the disease among the younger age class. We stress that this is in order to produce a green passport valid at most 6 months, and promote Pfizer sales.
                  These estimated numbers of deaths from the vaccine are probably much lower than actual numbers as it accounts only for those defined as COVID-19 deaths for that short time period and does not include AVC and cardiac (and other) events resulting from the inflammatory reactions in tens of reports documented on the NAKIM site, which themselves are only the iceberg's tip, see here.

                  © Copyright Original Source



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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post

                    I always want to know whether the hospital uses scientifically proven treatments like Ivermectin, high-dosage Vitamin D and Budesonide. If the hospital protocols are not right, then the problem is of malpractice rather than whether someone exposed themselves to the dangers of an experimental sars-cov-2 shot. The super odd thing is how he ends up with covid-19 so quickly after exposing the problems of taking an experimental technology. There is something wrong about this situation and it is not wrong that he exposed the dangers of the covid shots.

                    Beyond that, I'm not sure how this addresses the problem of mass psychosis that is constantly being fed by the government officials and media. We find that masks are ineffective after 12 months and that lockdowns are ineffective through that period too. Then the experimental covid shots are ineffective so that masks are "needed again" and then booster shots are on the way. How many more of the ineffective solutions do we need?
                    At what point will the covid vaccine no longer be experiemental?
                    What is the stated benefit of the covid vaccine by it's supporters? What exactly does it do?
                    In what way specifically are masks and lockdowns ineffective?

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Psychic Missile View Post

                      At what point will the covid vaccine no longer be experiemental?
                      What is the stated benefit of the covid vaccine by it's supporters? What exactly does it do?
                      In what way specifically are masks and lockdowns ineffective?
                      whoa. you really have been out of the loop for 16 months.

                      I think I have mentioned it here recently, even in this thread. We have to see the results 5 or 10 years down the line. What are the effects on cancer, neurological issues, heart issues, fertility?

                      I'm not sure what you mean by its supporters. The benefit found in the trials was reduced symptoms of covid-19. However these trials are done worse than a second year undergraduate lab report.

                      Your last question is weird. What have we gained from mask wearing and lockdowns in 16 months. Nothing. You should already be aware that the PCR test result in 97% false positives (based on the analysis at cormandrostenreview.com). Any of the studies based on the PCR test are pretty useless (including trials for the covid shot, like Pfizer's).

                      We can go with this study. I don't have a well-0rganized collection of studies on masks though:
                      Source: https://swprs.org/face-masks-evidence/?fbclid=IwAR23xWX8BVe9SV4lsGHHgKwBnHJ0StLF0Cz5QgolMlE2c89C1FQ3CY4sLhQ



                      Face masks in the general population might be effective, at least in some circumstances, but there is currently little to no evidence supporting this proposition. If the coronavirus is indeed transmitted via indoor aerosols, face masks are unlikely to be protective. Health authorities should therefore not assume or suggest that face masks will reduce the rate or risk of infection.

                      © Copyright Original Source



                      Lockdowns add nothing either. This is an example showing the futility of lockdowns. (I only quote part of the content.)
                      Source: https://mailchi.mp/tomwoods/three?e=5dd4534edc

                      So let's check in:
                      Let's talk about what we're seeing in this graph, which extends back to mid-March and continues through the present.

                      First, note that cases, hospitalizations, and deaths are given per million, so population is already taken into account.

                      What we note is this: California and New York have higher case, hospitalization, and death rates right now than Florida had even at its peak. For all three of those metrics, Florida at its worst never reached where the other two states are today. Whatever will the excuse factory do now?

                      Florida's theme parks are open. Schools have remained open. Tourists continue to come in and out. No state-imposed occupancy restrictions exist anywhere. I just saw a comedy show at the King Center in Melbourne. I'll be seeing Beethoven's Emperor Concerto performed by the Orlando Philharmonic on March 1.

                      And yet Florida right now is doing better than California and New York, where these pleasures of life have been canceled for ten months. Again, Florida's rates have never been worse than California and New York's are right now.

                      © Copyright Original Source

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                      • #41

                        A whistleblower is testifying that the actual deaths of record ascribed to the sars-cov-2 experimental shots is at 45,000 within 3 days not just the 11,000 in America. This does not even include deaths after 3 days. There are about 11 databases for tracking adverse events with the vaccines in America and only the VAERS deaths are commonly noted. This may lead to a death count by the covid shots that exceeds the deaths by covid-19 alone (apart from 3 or more comorbidities).


                        Source: https://renz-law.com/


                        WHISTLEBLOWER: 45,000 Dead from Covid Shot, Not 11,000



                        Attorney Thomas Renz Exposes 45,000 Covid Shot Death Number at Clay Clark's ReAwaken America Tour

                        A Whistleblower with access to government websites and data collection on Vaccine Injuries and Death gave sworn testimony that the 11K VAERS Covid Shot Death number is far too low, and according to the Whistleblower under penalty of perjury, the number is 45,000 people dead due to the Covid "vaccines." Watch this powerful speech by Attorney Thomas Renz as he discusses what he's discovered, and what he's going to do as a result

                        © Copyright Original Source


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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Psychic Missile View Post
                          At what point will the covid vaccine no longer be experiemental?
                          Given over 4 billion doses of the vaccines have now been given globally, it seems hard to claim they are still 'experimental'. They must now be among the most tested medical interventions in human history.
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by seer View Post

                            Liar? A bit harsh isn't it?
                            No. There are not more people dying of covid in the US now than there were during the last wave. There are not more people dying/hospitalised from the vaccine than from the virus.

                            People are literally dying because they swallow the misinformation being spread about COVID.
                            Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.

                            MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
                            MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.

                            seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
                              Your logic is lacking here.

                              Your information is lacking. There have been over 10k deaths reported in the US and roughly 100k severe reactions. There are over 20k deaths reported in the EU system.

                              I also have heard of more deaths and injury by covid shot than I have of deaths by covid-19.
                              Even if the above figure of 10,000 reported deaths from vaccine shots is correct, it is still vastly below the 600,000 reported deaths from COVID which mikewhitney is aware of, even if he claims it s an overestimate. Even if he is misleadingly comparing deaths+injuries from vaccine vs deaths from COVID. The same applies to the figures for Europe.



                              Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.

                              MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
                              MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.

                              seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
                                This post is a caution … a glimmer of insight … that may not help anyone right now but may help people wake up as we enter the next wave of deceit … wave of covid … the unproven delta wave. As we see 2020 repeated with new lockdowns, maybe people can look at the futility of doing again those actions that failed the first time.

                                I just saw where CP noted the inconsistent information from sources like Fauci and the CDC. We can expect this to continue even worse as we go into another cycle of mental conditioning against us. Fauci presented contradictory information all along. He is either evil or is ignorant in his field – as indeed indicated by Kary Mullis, who created the PCR Test process. This is a technique used to disorient people and keep them from seeking the truth of the matter – a pursuit that can then seem hopeless in the midst of such confusing information by the media.

                                It is not some narrow groups of rapture-mentality people who see deceptions in the media and the prohibition of debate. We see educated non-religious medical doctors and scientists who have shown the problems of the statistics and the so-called science promoted by the NIH, CDC, and media.

                                Did you go into panic with a sense of terror at the lockdowns?

                                Did you succumb to media propaganda?

                                Do you see more people dying now than during the first year of the pandemic but still hold the covid shots as being salvation from covid-19? I get reports of more people harmed by the experimental shots than by covid-19 itself -- unless we just want to say covid shots are covid injuries. However, that would just be mixing unrelated causes of harm into one name.

                                How many people have avoided debate, of looking at credible discussions against the lies about the virus … or exposing the deception of people like Fauci?


                                As we enter the next wave of covid-19 fear, this new wave will re-ignite the fears from last year. However, the fears will be stronger due to the relaxed months we have been enjoying. This will be all the worse for people who have gotten the covid shots in hope of freedom while being again subjected to the oppression of 2020. The least you should gain, if nothing else, is the awareness that those who refuse the experimental covid shots are mostly sane people who have examined the science and the facts. Respect that aspect about them. Respect their informed decisions. Don't be part of the psychotic masses that seek revenge against people informed about the deaths and disease caused by the covid shots.

                                The attached video describes mass psychosis which leads to totalitarianism. You may not accept the ideas now but it can help later when you recognize what has happened to society. You may begin to recognize the eugenics of the 30s and 40s returning in a new cloak, again in the name of science

                                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09maaUaRT4M

                                Well I guess I'm one of those crazed rapture-mentality people.

                                While I do see attempted deceptions, what I do see are dumb people who believe the stupidity coming from the left.

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