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Originally posted by Carrikature View PostIt's more than that. Slippery slope is in fact an assertion that Z will happen while using Z as a basis for countering X. It's easy to show how X could lead to Y or Z. What's completely omitted is the part where Y and Z aren't preventable outcomes. If you could show that Y and Z are both necessary and unavoidable outcomes of X, you wouldn't have a fallacy.
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Originally posted by Carrikature View PostI can rephrase it if you like.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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There absolutely is not. Not everything is a right."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostThere absolutely is not. Not everything is a right.
But whether or not *I* have to live IS the most fundamental of rights. Nothing is more. Without it, there is no real right to "life." My life is my own, and that entails the right to say I have had enough for whatever reason I deem fit.The State. Ideas so good they have to be mandatory.
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Originally posted by Sea of red View PostNot everything should be up to mob rule.The State. Ideas so good they have to be mandatory.
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Originally posted by Darth Xena View PostNice straw man. I never said everything is an absolutely right. Particularly since I am a hard deontological libertarian, I obviously don't think EVERYTHING is a right.
But whether or not *I* have to live IS the most fundamental of rights. Nothing is more. Without it, there is no real right to "life." My life is my own, and that entails the right to say I have had enough for whatever reason I deem fit.Don't call it a comeback. It's a riposte.
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Originally posted by Darth Xena View PostParticularly not whether you should have the right to stop living. I cannot believe the kind of authoritarian mindset that thinks it has such dominion over other people.
I'll also say this about you Dee Dee, you've really changed in the past three years. In the past I used to not read much of your posts because I find little in common with you. But unlike most here that talk about small-government, you actually walk the walk and are consistent now.
I've gone through some changes myself, so I can relate.
Cheers
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Originally posted by Darth Xena View PostNice straw man. I never said everything is an absolutely right. Particularly since I am a hard deontological libertarian, I obviously don't think EVERYTHING is a right.
But whether or not *I* have to live IS the most fundamental of rights. Nothing is more. Without it, there is no real right to "life." My life is my own, and that entails the right to say I have had enough for whatever reason I deem fit.
If the government can force us to live, then we are not truly free.
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Originally posted by Spartacus View PostYou can't call it a strawman when your original post was only one sentenceThe State. Ideas so good they have to be mandatory.
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