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  • Originally posted by Carrikature View Post
    It's more than that. Slippery slope is in fact an assertion that Z will happen while using Z as a basis for countering X. It's easy to show how X could lead to Y or Z. What's completely omitted is the part where Y and Z aren't preventable outcomes. If you could show that Y and Z are both necessary and unavoidable outcomes of X, you wouldn't have a fallacy.
    I think I'm gonna take a nap the reread this.
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    • Originally posted by Carrikature View Post
      It's more than that. Slippery slope is in fact an assertion that Z will happen while using Z as a basis for countering X. It's easy to show how X could lead to Y or Z. What's completely omitted is the part where Y and Z aren't preventable outcomes. If you could show that Y and Z are both necessary and unavoidable outcomes of X, you wouldn't have a fallacy.
      I knew I was forgetting something. I should have put the word inevitably in the other post.

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      • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
        I think I'm gonna take a nap the reread this.
        I can rephrase it if you like.
        I'm not here anymore.

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        • Originally posted by Carrikature View Post
          I can rephrase it if you like.
          No, I was kidding -- my brain was trying to make it an algebra problem to solve for X.
          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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          • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
            No, I was kidding -- my brain was trying to make it an algebra problem to solve for X.
            If you set X=algebra and Y=apples, you get pie charts.

            I'm not here anymore.

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            • There is an absolute right to die. I cannot believe this is even arguable.
              The State. Ideas so good they have to be mandatory.

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              • There absolutely is not. Not everything is a right.
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                • Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
                  There absolutely is not. Not everything is a right.
                  Not everything should be up to mob rule.

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                  • Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
                    There absolutely is not. Not everything is a right.
                    Nice straw man. I never said everything is an absolutely right. Particularly since I am a hard deontological libertarian, I obviously don't think EVERYTHING is a right.

                    But whether or not *I* have to live IS the most fundamental of rights. Nothing is more. Without it, there is no real right to "life." My life is my own, and that entails the right to say I have had enough for whatever reason I deem fit.
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                    • Originally posted by Sea of red View Post
                      Not everything should be up to mob rule.
                      Particularly not whether you should have the right to stop living. I cannot believe the kind of authoritarian mindset that thinks it has such dominion over other people.
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                      • Originally posted by Darth Xena View Post
                        Nice straw man. I never said everything is an absolutely right. Particularly since I am a hard deontological libertarian, I obviously don't think EVERYTHING is a right.

                        But whether or not *I* have to live IS the most fundamental of rights. Nothing is more. Without it, there is no real right to "life." My life is my own, and that entails the right to say I have had enough for whatever reason I deem fit.
                        You can't call it a strawman when your original post was only one sentence
                        Don't call it a comeback. It's a riposte.

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                        • Originally posted by Darth Xena View Post
                          Particularly not whether you should have the right to stop living. I cannot believe the kind of authoritarian mindset that thinks it has such dominion over other people.
                          I agree completely.

                          I'll also say this about you Dee Dee, you've really changed in the past three years. In the past I used to not read much of your posts because I find little in common with you. But unlike most here that talk about small-government, you actually walk the walk and are consistent now.

                          I've gone through some changes myself, so I can relate.

                          Cheers

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                          • Originally posted by Darth Xena View Post
                            Nice straw man. I never said everything is an absolutely right. Particularly since I am a hard deontological libertarian, I obviously don't think EVERYTHING is a right.

                            But whether or not *I* have to live IS the most fundamental of rights. Nothing is more. Without it, there is no real right to "life." My life is my own, and that entails the right to say I have had enough for whatever reason I deem fit.
                            Righto.

                            If the government can force us to live, then we are not truly free.

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                            • Originally posted by Spartacus View Post
                              You can't call it a strawman when your original post was only one sentence
                              Sure I can. The response said not everything is a right which only makes sense if I was claiming that everything was a right. I was claiming this particular thing was a right.
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                              • Originally posted by Sea of red View Post
                                Righto.

                                If the government can force us to live, then we are not truly free.
                                So much win.
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