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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostThen your opinion remains an uninformed opinion!
Or perhaps it might be construed as simply prejudice.
One of us actually lives, works and pays taxes in this country, and is apprised of our laws and Constitutional rights and responsibilities.
That would be me.
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
And your opinions are misinformed opinions.
Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
One of us actually lives, works and pays taxes in this country, and is apprised of our laws and Constitutional rights and responsibilities."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostUnfortunately, that is merely your opinion and given that you have stated you "don't need "evidence" for my opinion " it likewise remains an uninformed opinion.
That you live, work and pay taxes within the USA does not automatically make you an informed individual about Constitutional rights and responsibilities.
One of us has been a sworn law enforcement officer, IS a current citizen, regularly participates in naturalization ceremonies, has a degree in criminal justice, and continues to serve in various law enforcement roles in the United States.
One of us has never been a citizen of the US, and regularly demonstrates ignorance of our laws, way of life, customs, and just reads stuff on the internet from left-wing sources. (that would be you)
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
One of us has been a sworn law enforcement officer, IS a current citizen, regularly participates in naturalization ceremonies, has a degree in criminal justice, and continues to serve in various law enforcement roles in the United States.
Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostOne of us has never been a citizen of the US, and regularly demonstrates ignorance of our laws, way of life, customs,
"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostShe opines that it is just good civics to allow [and encourage] people to feel they have a sense of investment in their towns, communities, cities, and the country. Furthermore, and given that the US permits dual citizenship thereby allowing those who hold dual citizenship to vote from abroad, she asks why foreign residents in the US should be not likewise be represented?
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostNone of which automatically makes you competent in any of them.
That makes the USA sound like some hitherto unknown culture that has yet to make contact with the outside world.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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From the OP....
She acknowledges concerns among Republicans and that while, initially, Democrats would most probably be the biggest beneficiaries of such a change, it could encourage elected Republicans to appeal to a more diverse constituency, and/or perhaps encourage their supporters to vote in greater numbers. In other words, it is possible that allowing those 15 million extra voters would benefit both major parties and possibly even the smaller ones such as the Libertarians or Greens.
A) Democrats would most probably be the biggest beneficiaries of such a change
2) it could encourage elected Republicans to appeal to a more diverse constituency,
So, there ya have it --- Democrats would get more votes, and it would force Republicans to give up their convictions in hopes of groveling to a wider audience.
The pinko-commying of the US!
Thanks, but no.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
A very feeble analogy.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostWhich should mean it will be very easy for you to dismantle rather than just give your typical baseless dismissals. In fact, generally when you issue one of your little hand waves that typically means you can't present a coherent rebuttal -- or even that you never even bothered to read itThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
Not that you bothered to explain why.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
Interesting, I just looked into this author because I've never heard of her.
She's not even a US citizen, and on a cursory search doesn't appear to even live in the US that I can see.
In addition, it appears she has Canadian, Swiss, and Iranian citizenship. Yet somehow is upset that a country would require citizenship to vote in national elections.
And even more searching reveals that Canada, Switzerland, and Iran, do not allow non-citizens to vote for federal elections/referendums/etc.. She is a citizen of all of these, and as far as I can tell has never written an Op-Ed in any papers in those countries demanding they allow non-citizens to vote. Yet in the country she lives in and earns her money in and yet has not bothered to become a citizen of, we get this. Very very interesting.
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
A more thorough search beyond Wiki reveals she lives in the US and has lived here for 17 years (yet hasn't apparently applied for citizenship......????). Apparently, she says so in the article (behind a paywall for me,so I couldn't see it).
And even more searching reveals that Canada, Switzerland, and Iran, do not allow non-citizens to vote for federal elections/referendums/etc.. She is a citizen of all of these, and as far as I can tell has never written an Op-Ed in any papers in those countries demanding they allow non-citizens to vote. Yet in the country she lives in and earns her money in and yet has not bothered to become a citizen of, we get this. Very very interesting.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by RumTumTugger View Post
I"m sorry Hypatia, you are wrong the US does not allow dual citizenship. I ought to know my husband who was born in Germany because his father was stationed there held dual citizenship becuase Germany allows it but at age 18 in accordance with U.S law in order to vote he had to make a choice renounce his German Citizenship or not vote in our elections as a U.S. Citizen, same with the son and daughter of close friends of ours who's father was stationed in Wales when they were born."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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