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  • Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
    Pardon? Where have I referred to staff being fired?
    I'm the one who brought that up --- try really really hard to keep up. Nurses and medical staff are quitting or being fired because they are required to get vaccinated, and they choose not to do so.

    And, yes, they fully realize the consequences of their actions.

    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    • Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
      I find your attitude callous.
      Hypocrisy personified, folks!
      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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      • Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post

        To a foreigner like yourself that doesn't have a dang clue what they're talking about, perhaps.

        There's nothing speculative about it to people in the US, especially those who live in Texas or who (like me) have friends or family in Texas.

        https://www.npr.org/2021/06/22/10092...t-covid-vaccin
        Have mercy on her - she gets her "news" about Texas from the New York Times. We don't like our Picante Sauce from NYC, either.

        new-york-city-.jpg

        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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        • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

          Mask use in my city had dropped to near zero a few weeks ago but appears to be slowly creeping up again. Thankfully, no stores have yet adopted a mask requirement for entry, and I have a feeling most people would ignore it if they did.
          It was an interesting shopping excursion. Family Dollar about a hundred yards from Giant Eagle had a "mask if not vaxed" policy, but no shoppers wore masks. Giant Eagle had the "everyone please mask" policy, but *at most* one person in ten was wearing a mask. That was in the little shopping plaza outside of town. In town, CVS had a "masks recommended but not required" policy. Rite-Aid pharmacy directly across the street had no visible signs pertaining to masks.
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          Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.

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          • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

            It's actually something we've known for years and was considered an uncontroversial fact prior to the China flu scare when the government invoked its standard "We must do something; X is something; therefore, we must do X" response to a problem.

            But anyway, here's a recent study showing non-medical masks to be nearly 100% ineffective at stopping viruses, and medical masks used in a hospital setting are only around 50% effective at best.

            https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/5/4/e006577
            The paper says that cloth masks are inferior to medical grade masks. The study doesn't compare cloth masks or medical grade masks to no masks.
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            • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

              Have mercy on her - she gets her "news" about Texas from the New York Times. We don't like our Picante Sauce from NYC, either.

              new-york-city-.jpg
              "Get a rope!"
              "When you're attacking FBI agents because you're under criminal investigation, you're losing"
              -Trump Press Secretary, Sarah Huckabee Sanders


              "So when you actually get the virus, you're going to start producing antibodies against multiple pieces of the virus. So, your antibodies are probably better at that point than the vaccination."
              - Pfizer Scientist Chris Croce

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              • Originally posted by NorrinRadd View Post

                It was an interesting shopping excursion. Family Dollar about a hundred yards from Giant Eagle had a "mask if not vaxed" policy, but no shoppers wore masks. Giant Eagle had the "everyone please mask" policy, but *at most* one person in ten was wearing a mask. That was in the little shopping plaza outside of town. In town, CVS had a "masks recommended but not required" policy. Rite-Aid pharmacy directly across the street had no visible signs pertaining to masks.
                I went out today to buy a used fridge from a local appliance shop, and a prominent sign read "Masks Required Even If You Are Vaccinated!" Exactly zero staff and customers had masks. I don't know why they even bother keeping the sign up since they clearly don't care if you wear a mask or not.
                Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                Than a fool in the eyes of God


                From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                • Originally posted by Reepicheep View Post

                  The paper says that cloth masks are inferior to medical grade masks. The study doesn't compare cloth masks or medical grade masks to no masks.
                  Penetration of cloth masks by particles was almost 97% and medical masks 44%.


                  Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                  But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                  Than a fool in the eyes of God


                  From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                  • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

                    Penetration of cloth masks by particles was almost 97% and medical masks 44%.

                    It sounds like medical grade masks (the type I wear) are much better than wearing no mask. Do you agree? Or do you believe that medical professionals should totally abandon the wearing of masks?

                    Would you likewise argue that surgeons shouldn't wash their hands before performing surgery?
                    "My favorite color in the alphabet is three." - Donald J. Trump
                    "The 'J' in my middle name stands for 'Jenius'" - Donald J. Trump

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                    • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                      Have mercy on her - she gets her "news" about Texas from the New York Times. We don't like our Picante Sauce from NYC, either.

                      new-york-city-.jpg



                      FWIU, at least at the time, Pace wasn't one of the better Picante sauces on the market

                      I'm always still in trouble again

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                      • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post



                        FWIU, at least at the time, Pace wasn't one of the better Picante sauces on the market
                        I'd rather go into an authentic Mexican establishment and enjoy whatever they use.
                        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                        • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

                          I went out today to buy a used fridge from a local appliance shop, and a prominent sign read "Masks Required Even If You Are Vaccinated!" Exactly zero staff and customers had masks. I don't know why they even bother keeping the sign up since they clearly don't care if you wear a mask or not.
                          Virtue Signaling?
                          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                          • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                            I'd rather go into an authentic Mexican establishment and enjoy whatever they use.
                            I prefer the queso -- but without the peppers (@Andius would likely be horrified)

                            I'm always still in trouble again

                            "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                            "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                            "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                            • Originally posted by Reepicheep View Post

                              It sounds like medical grade masks (the type I wear) are much better than wearing no mask. Do you agree? Or do you believe that medical professionals should totally abandon the wearing of masks?

                              Would you likewise argue that surgeons shouldn't wash their hands before performing surgery?
                              First of all, that's under ideal circumstances as part of a hygiene regimen in a hospital setting, so a best case scenario.

                              Second, I would not want a sick surgeon operating on me given the limited effectiveness of even medical grade masks.

                              ​​​​​The bottom line is that no matter what mask you use, if you're sick, then you are exhaling the virus with every breath, which is why the China flu spreads the same whether there is high mask compliance or not.
                              Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                              But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                              Than a fool in the eyes of God


                              From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                              • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                                I prefer the queso -- but without the peppers (@Andius would likely be horrified)
                                I like dumping some of the Pico de Gallo into the queso to give it a little more body.
                                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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