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Originally posted by Machinist View PostDoes anyone know when the Supreme Court is supposed to rule on the vaccine mandate?
Does anyone have an idea on how they might rule? It's looking like they're leaning against it, but I've been surprised before.
Beyond that it's anyone's guess, and depends on just how much the justices want to write on the subject. This is virtually certain to not be a unanimous opinion so you'll see at least one dissent, which makes it take longer, and you might end up with concurring opinions or other dissents which all make it take longer. I doubt we'll see the decision before May.
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View PostFINALLY the CDC admitting what we've been saying all along. Over 75 percent of deaths involving covid have been people with FOUR OR MORE Comorbidities. These were people that were very unwell, and many who were likely to die no matter what illness they got.
https://www.kusi.com/cdc-director-75...comorbidities/Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by seanD View Post
Has he made a statement about it? But, yeah, that's pretty dumb and disturbing if he actually meant 100k.
See how easy that is?
One little word can make a huge difference.Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.
Beige Federalist.
Nationalist Christian.
"Everybody is somebody's heretic."
Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.
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Justice for Ashli Babbitt!
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Arrest Ray Epps and his Fed bosses!
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.
Beige Federalist.
Nationalist Christian.
"Everybody is somebody's heretic."
Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.
Proud member of the this space left blank community.
Would-be Grand Vizier of the Padishah Maxi-Super-Ultra-Hyper-Mega-MAGA King Trumpius Rex.
Justice for Ashli Babbitt!
Justice for Matthew Perna!
Arrest Ray Epps and his Fed bosses!
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Originally posted by Terraceth View PostOpinions have to be done by the end of the term, which normally ends sometime in June. So we should have a decision sometime before July.
Beyond that it's anyone's guess, and depends on just how much the justices want to write on the subject. This is virtually certain to not be a unanimous opinion so you'll see at least one dissent, which makes it take longer, and you might end up with concurring opinions or other dissents which all make it take longer. I doubt we'll see the decision before May.
There seems to be a very loose consensus that the OSHA biz mandate will go, but the health workers mandate will stay.
I get the sense that the conservatives will rule based on law, and the libs and squishes will rule based on feels.Geislerminian Antinomian Kenotic Charispneumaticostal Gender Mutualist-Egalitarian.
Beige Federalist.
Nationalist Christian.
"Everybody is somebody's heretic."
Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.
Proud member of the this space left blank community.
Would-be Grand Vizier of the Padishah Maxi-Super-Ultra-Hyper-Mega-MAGA King Trumpius Rex.
Justice for Ashli Babbitt!
Justice for Matthew Perna!
Arrest Ray Epps and his Fed bosses!
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
I can only go by what you actually typed. You seemed upset that he used an estimate instead of an exact number.
But that statement above is wrong or misleading in at least four different ways, which is truly (un)impressive for just six words.
Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostSo your quibble is that, in you opinion, the news report I cited got it wrong, that it's not true that nearly 80,000 people could qualify for compensation after being injured by the vaccines.
Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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It appears that even those on the left are starting to realize that just like EVERYTHING else he has touched, old Joe is fumbling and bumbling the response to Covid.
There are several points in that article that need addressing
A half dozen former health policy makers, including some members of Biden’s transition team, told NBC News the Biden administration needs an urgent reset on its Covid strategy or the White House could rapidly lose credibility with the public.
I'm not sure there is any credibility left for him to lose after he threw up his hands in surrender and turned over managing the pandemic to the states.
While praising the administration for quickly being able to make the vaccines widely available, she said that Americans' “lives are still pretty chaotic and kind of messy and when they thought they were getting out of this they are back in it."
Um... That was Trump. A little thing called Operation Warp Speed.
But the rapid spread of the variant has created a level of disruption in many Americans’ lives not seen since the early days of the pandemic. Staffing shortages have forced schools and businesses to close and have led to absences in police and fire departments with large numbers of sick first-responders.
They fired first responders who wouldn't get jabbed, complain about shortages but then WANT SICK AND INFECTED WORKERS TO RETURN TO WORK. Does that make a lick of sense?
They also say Biden needs to acknowledge the extent of testing shortages and ramp up a remedy to it.
The cause of the shortage lies squarely at old Joe's feet. He rejected a "10-page plan" from numerous public health institutions to obtain and distribute Covid tests back in October to help with any surge in testing during and after upcoming the holidays. A bored Biden reacted by looking at his watch and aimlessly wandered off looking for another ice cream cone. Now we have reports of people literally climbing over one another trying to get tested and there being a shortage in available tests.
The Big 3 networks spiked the story and instead focused on the duffer's promise of more testing coming soon. I'm sure that's exactly how they would have reported it if had been Trump who bumbled and bungled this up.Last edited by rogue06; 01-11-2022, 06:48 AM.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
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Originally posted by NorrinRadd View Post
I've heard and read various sources expecting the decision this week.
There seems to be a very loose consensus that the OSHA biz mandate will go, but the health workers mandate will stay.
I get the sense that the conservatives will rule based on law, and the libs and squishes will rule based on feels.
But here's what I think is going to happen if it does pass:
About a quarter of all workers will take the vaccination, just because what the heck. The other 3/4 will take the test and mask option. From there it's going to be a hairball in enforcing the workers to keep their masks on and the ones conducting tests will even start to slack and cut corners. After about a year of this extra deadweight effort, it will become a lingering law that is rarely enforced.
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Originally posted by Ignorant Roy View Post
No. Now you're trying to shift all the blame onto your source, which you misrepresented.
Did the news report get it wrong? It's possible, but you have given us no reason to think they actually did. But you carry on with your pedantry. Apparently it's the only implement in your debate toolbox.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostIt appears that even those on the left are starting to realize that just like EVERYTHING else he has touched, old Joe is fumbling and bumbling the response to Covid.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
What's remarkable is that anybody was expecting anything else.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostIt's nice to see you taking my previous quotes to heart.
Do you have any evidence that Sotomayor was lying, as opposed to misinformed? Do you have any evidence that her statements haven't been corrected, or have caused anyone else to become misinformed, or have had any negative impact on anything?
That you are merely dismissing it, when you are so concerned when a nobody like MM is misinformed and speaks something that is not true, just shows us that you only care about your own bias and viewpoint being promoted. The ends justifies the means. If she had misspoken against your viewpoint, like MM does, you would be decrying her words as "lying" and irresponsible.
And I say this as someone who basically agrees with your viewpoint regarding COVID and vaccinations. I think that everyone should be vaccinated. I am just against forcing it upon people at the cost of their jobs or freedom.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostIt appears that even those on the left are starting to realize that just like EVERYTHING else he has touched, old Joe is fumbling and bumbling the response to Covid.
There are several points in that article that need addressing
A half dozen former health policy makers, including some members of Biden’s transition team, told NBC News the Biden administration needs an urgent reset on its Covid strategy or the White House could rapidly lose credibility with the public.
I'm not sure there is any credibility left for him to lose after he threw up his hands in surrender and turned over managing the pandemic to the states.
While praising the administration for quickly being able to make the vaccines widely available, she said that Americans' “lives are still pretty chaotic and kind of messy and when they thought they were getting out of this they are back in it."
Um... That was Trump. A little thing called Operation Warp Speed.
But the rapid spread of the variant has created a level of disruption in many Americans’ lives not seen since the early days of the pandemic. Staffing shortages have forced schools and businesses to close and have led to absences in police and fire departments with large numbers of sick first-responders.
They fired first responders who wouldn't get jabbed, complain about shortages but then WANT SICK AND INFECTED WORKERS TO RETURN TO WORK. Does that make a lick of sense?
They also say Biden needs to acknowledge the extent of testing shortages and ramp up a remedy to it.
The cause of the shortage lies squarely at old Joe's feet. He rejected a "10-page plan" from numerous public health institutions to obtain and distribute Covid tests back in October to help with any surge in testing during and after upcoming the holidays. A bored Biden reacted by looking at his watch and aimlessly wandered off looking for another ice cream cone. Now we have reports of people literally climbing over one another trying to get tested and there being a shortage in available tests.
The Big 3 networks spiked the story and instead focused on the duffer's promise of more testing coming soon. I'm sure that's exactly how they would have reported it if had been Trump who bumbled and bungled this up.
Here it comes. The bell tolls for Biden. Get ready.
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