Delta variant and all future global variant surges (all are free post)

[whag]

There are some similarities, but it's not exactly the same. As far as similarities are concerned, just as flu vaccines have not eliminated the flu, the China flu vaccines will not eliminate the China flu. In fact, there is good evidence that the China flu vaccines themselves are causing the China flu variants. The biggest difference, however, is the experimental nature of the China flu vaccines which appear to be leaving the vaccinated at a significantly higher risk to the variants than the unvaccinated, which is why we're seeing record high infection rates in Israel with the majority of severe cases among the vaccinated.

Post where the article in Science says that the majority of severe cases in Israel are among the vaccinated.

[shunyadragon]

He's sadly drunk the Branch Covidian kool-ade.

Source: https://abcnews.go.com/Health/live-updates/covid-delta-variant-surge/?id=79856482

COVID-19 live updates: Texas breaks its daily death toll record

Texas recorded 408 new fatalities.


Number of COVID-19 pediatric cases grows

More than 2,200 children are hospitalized with COVID-19 across U.S.The United States is facing a COVID-19 surge this summer as the more contagious delta variant spreads.

More than 653,000 Americans have died from COVID-19 while over 4.6 million people have died from the disease worldwide, according to real-time data compiled by the Center for Systems Science and Engineering at Johns Hopkins University.

Just 62.5% of Americans ages 12 and up are fully vaccinated against COVID-19, according to data from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

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The tragedy of the Delta variant is the pandemic of the unvaccinated. The best metric is the rate of hospitalization from COVID-19 that is most tragic for the Delta variant, and the complications like heart, lung and brain damage that result. Though the number of those that test positive is not the most accurate metric it does closely follow the rate of hospitalizations. Yes, the death rate is lower, because it infects a greater number of younger unvaccinated that have survival rate greater than older patients, and the technology of treatment of COVID-19 has greatly improved.

[Gondwanaland]

Source: https://abcnews.go.com/Health/live-updates/covid-delta-variant-surge/?id=79856482

COVID-19 live updates: Texas breaks its daily death toll record

Texas recorded 408 new fatalities.


Number of COVID-19 pediatric cases grows

More than 2,200 children are hospitalized with COVID-19 across U.S.The United States is facing a COVID-19 surge this summer as the more contagious delta variant spreads.

More than 653,000 Americans have died from COVID-19 while over 4.6 million people have died from the disease worldwide, according to real-time data compiled by the Center for Systems Science and Engineering at Johns Hopkins University.

Just 62.5% of Americans ages 12 and up are fully vaccinated against COVID-19, according to data from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

© Copyright Original Source

The tragedy of the Delta variant is the pandemic of the unvaccinated. The best metric is the rate of hospitalization from COVID-19 that is most tragic for the Delta variant, and the complications like heart, lung and brain damage that result. Though the number of those that test positive is not the most accurate metric it does closely follow the rate of hospitalizations. Yes, the death rate is lower, because it infects a greater number of younger unvaccinated that have survival rate greater than older patients, and the technology of treatment of COVID-19 has greatly improved.

You did manage to get one thing right - positive tests are not an accurate metric. Especially considering the large amount of vaccinated folks testing positive.

[Mountain Man]

Post where the article in Science says that the majority of severe cases in Israel are among the vaccinated.

You seem to be referring to something I posted in another thread, but the request is easily fulfilled:

(Aug 16, 2021) [Israel] is now logging one of the world’s highest infection rates, with nearly 650 new cases daily per million people. More than half are in fully vaccinated people, underscoring the extraordinary transmissibility of the Delta variant and stoking concerns that the benefits of vaccination ebb over time.

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What is clear is that “breakthrough” cases are not the rare events the term implies. As of 15 August, 514 Israelis were hospitalized with severe or critical COVID-19, a 31% increase from just 4 days earlier. Of the 514, 59% were fully vaccinated. Of the vaccinated, 87% were 60 or older. “There are so many breakthrough infections that they dominate and most of the hospitalized patients are actually vaccinated,” says Uri Shalit, a bioinformatician at the Israel Institute of Technology (Technion) who has consulted on COVID-19 for the government. “One of the big stories from Israel [is]: ‘Vaccines work, but not well enough.’”

https://www.science.org/news/2021/08...t-defeat-delta

[shunyadragon]

You did manage to get one thing right - positive tests are not an accurate metric. Especially considering the large amount of vaccinated folks testing positive.

Since you are a pandemic denier you get very little right. Yes many of the vaccinated do test positive, but they suffer far fewer symptoms. The metric that counts is the unvaccinated that are filling the hospitals,

[Gondwanaland]

Since you are a pandemic denier

Interesting claim. Now back it up. Let's see it.

you get very little right. Yes many of the vaccinated do test positive, but they suffer far fewer symptoms. The metric that counts is the unvaccinated that are filling the hospitals,

Not a super accurate metric either, because a number of vaccinated have entered the hospitals as well.

The metric that really counts is deaths, which is far lower than in previous waves.

[Mountain Man]

Since you are a pandemic denier you get very little right. Yes many of the vaccinated do test positive, but they suffer far fewer symptoms. The metric that counts is the unvaccinated that are filling the hospitals,

Israel is at the leading edge of pandemic response with one of the highest rates of vaccine compliance in the world, yet the China flu continues to run rampant among the population, and the majority of those hospitalized with severe cases are vaccinated.

[Sparko]

Joe is planning to use OSHA to coerce private businesses into enforcing vaccine compliance in their employees.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiep...anies-n2595630

We live in interesting times.

Yeah this administration's tactics seem to be "Let's outsource our totalitarianism by getting private businesses to do our dirty work"
Getting facebook to do their censoring. Getting private businesses to mandate vaccines.

I am all for everyone getting vaccinated, as you know. But, I am NOT for mandating it or forcing anyone to take a vaccine they don't want. And mandating it is not only wrong, I think it will backfire. It makes people who were reluctant to get the vaccine even more determined not to get it.

[Sparko]

A well considered reply but.....just for the record ....Africa is not a country.

Yeah I know that. I was considering it as an "area" where COVID vaccines are not prevalent.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

Yeah I know that. I was considering it as an "area" where COVID vaccines are not prevalent.

I realise it was an unfortunate typo but it did make me smile.

[seanD]

Joe is planning to use OSHA to coerce private businesses into enforcing vaccine compliance in their employees.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiep...anies-n2595630

We live in interesting times.

The fight is on. First police and fire unions started fighting back, now the RNC...

Republicans clapped back over the Biden administration's unprecedented 'jab or your job' Executive Order for federal workers and contractors, and a 'jab or test' mandate for corporations with over 100 employees. 600,000 postal workers are oddly exempt.

The sweeping new vaccine requirements, which completely ignore tens of millions in America who have recovered from Covid-19 and have natural immunity, will affect as many as 100 million Americans.

In response, the Republican National Committed (RNC) vowed to sue Biden once the mandate goes into effect, with President Ronna McDaniel tweeting that Biden lied.

"Joe Biden told Americans when he was elected that he would not impose vaccine mandates. He lied," McDaniel said in a statement, adding "Now small businesses, workers, and families across the country will pay the price."

"President Biden is so desperate to distract from his shameful, incompetent Afghanistan exit that he is saying crazy things and pushing constitutionally flawed executive orders. This is a cynical attempt to pick a fight and distract from the President’s morally disgraceful decision to leave Americans behind Taliban lines on the 20th anniversary of 9/11," Sen. Ben Sasse (R-NE) told the Daily Caller.

Meanwhile, Republican governors across the country have issued statements vowing to sue, or otherwise oppose, the vaccine mandate after Biden threatened them during Thursday's announcement.

"Let me be blunt," said Biden. "My plan also takes on elected officials in states that are undermining you in these life-saving actions. Right now local school officials are trying to keep children safe in a pandemic while their governor picks a fight with them and even threatens their salaries or their jobs. Talk about bullying the schools."

"If they’ll not help, if these governors won’t help us beat the pandemic, I will use my power as president to get them out of the way," he added.

Not so fast, say the governors

[Thoughtful Monk]

The hospital workers are protesting the vaccine mandate. I believe they are protesting the state mandate and not Biden's. Also, the state mandate has no option for weekly testing in lieu of the vaccine. A rally drew hundreds of people locally.

This in a deep blue county with a 66% at least one dose and 61% fully vaccinated.

Makes me wonder when health care workers are protesting.

Makes me also wonder if the mandates are going to break our health care as badly as a Covid surge.

[seanD]

MSM is being really mum about the healthcare professional anti-mandate revolt across the country. You have to go to mostly local news sources or alternative sources to get the info...

Protests against healthcare worker COVID-19 vaccinations

Healthcare Worker Protests: Eve of the Mandate

Healthcare workers protest California's vaccine mandate

A N.Y. Hospital Will Stop Delivering Babies As Workers Quit Over A Vaccine Mandate

Hundreds of healthcare workers protest against vaccine mandate at Strong Memorial Hospital

I guess that can give the covid cult narrative quite a blackeye if they're forced to accuse anti-mandate healthcare workers of being "anti-vax."

[Mountain Man]

Even totalitarian Australia is getting vicious pushback from its citizens.

Anti-coronavirus vaccine protests held in Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane, Adelaide, Perth

[Starlight]

Even totalitarian Australia is getting vicious pushback from its citizens.

Anti-coronavirus vaccine protests held in Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane, Adelaide, Perth

Article from February?